Should Blacks Support Hillary Clinton?

You know, I read that article earlier today myself, and had thought about posting a thread about it too. But something told me there would be not much response from Left on that topic, especially since the writer (Tavis Smiley) is a Liberal, Afro-American who thinks a good percentage of black voters will vote for Trump over Hillary.

 

well to extend this a little further... it was actually black leaders and the black community itself that was demanding tougher sentences for crack... because they saw this drug destroying their community, and they thought if they sent people to prison it would get them off the drugs and away from it when they came out... ultimately that proved to be the wrong strategy because of the addiction and additional problems from being convicted of crimes when they tried to apply for jobs... but make no mistake, it really was the black community and its leaders who were demanding tougher punishment for drug crimes affecting their community... and democrats listened...

problem is, people forget the real history and now blame republicans for this, despite it being initiated by the black community and carried out by the democrats...

this reminds me of the civil rights act of 1964 and how quickly we forgot it almost didn't pass because democrats weren't going to vote for it, and after a few watered down amendments it was still in jeopardy of not passing until a republican made a wonderful speech before the senate and finally got democrats and republicans to vote for it...

http://www.dirksencenter.org/print_basics_histmats_civilrights64_cloturespeech.htm

(and a higher percentage of republicans voted for it than democrats, another fact lost in history, how ironic republicans broke the filibuster by democrats)

yeah, a republican did that... you are welcome america...

 

I'd probably start visiting political forum. It's free and you get lots of opinions that'll at least get the brain cells working. Specially mine

 

I noticed that there were others in the crowd who were black
who weren't being shown the door. I don't think it was because
she was black. I think she was a protester. That's what they do
to white protesters too.

 

Like it or not, I talk about these things in a way I see fit. I'll focus upon and emphasize things in accordance with the topic as I see fit.

My overall point is and will remain, until the GOP (the Right) unequivocally and consistently shows African Americans and other minorities rhetoric AND behaviors which communicate that they are not inherently prejudiced and hostile, then it (the GOP) will continue to be looking at any widespread support from the same, as if across a large, deep body of water with no bridge in place.

So, these kinds of thoughts, questions, political threads which suggest that it is somehow 'anomalous' that Blacks or other minorities tend to support the Left, are essentially ludicrous. It really is as clear as opening one's eyes and seeing the word, policies and the effects which the GOP and the Right have directed at minorities for decades.

Short answer:

If the choice is between ANY on the Right and Clinton... then yes, they should.

 

wait so I just begged and pleaded with you to define the issue you wanted to discuss, and you're refusing to do so??? so you're not interested in a discussion, just a demeaning... next time perhaps just say you have no intention of actually discussing the issues and just intend to demean and belittle others without discussion...

unless like I requested, you respond to my message and cite exactly what about voting rights you want to discuss, and please chime in on what I have already stated on it, as well as address the immigration impact on blacks that I also cited and explained and demonstrated how blacks will suffer the most under a democrat plan... but at this point it seems you're content dodging and deflecting then demeaning and belittling people without adding any true content to support it... just pure hot air...

P.S. seriously though, I really am begging you to discuss the points in that previous message, I implore you to engage in a discussion on this topic... isn't that why we're here? or are you only here to parrot media talking points without any discussion to back it up and have it challenged? I would love to debate voting rights and immigration issues and their impact on black people with you... lets discuss... the two points... or even one point if you want, you pick... lets put our ideologies to the test and prove it...

P.S.S. basically, how can the GOP prove their policy is better for blacks, if you won't even engage in a discussion to debate the issue and WHY their policy is better... you're basically just saying "I won't change my mind until you prove it, but I refuse to listen to anything you say to prove it"... engage me in this discussion I would LOVVVVE to help you...

 

Yes.

Goodbye.

 

and you just answered the question of the thread... """Should Blacks Support Hillary Clinton?"""

you just showed the resounding answer is """NO"""...

/thread

 

This is true, however Hillary's lie involves the deaths of four Americans. While the others might have blood on their hands as well, we know Hillary does.

 

Been visiting it for 5+ yrs.
When you've been here for a while, please inform the rest of us what options blacks have other than D's?
For I've seen nothing from any place else. And I'll agree, even the D's don't do much.
IMO, neither party does much for any person. For people don't donate enough money to buy political clout and 'We The People', don't have an unified lobbyist. So the people are far down the pecking order. Black and white and other color.

 

Their option is to realize that they live in a country in which they have the freedom to be as successful as they could ever want to be, and that success has been realized by many, many other black people who are the real icons of leadership they should be looking to, not the race-baiting hate peddlers like Al Sharpton. They need to realize that voting their way to success and happiness is an illusion that is keeping them from getting off their asses and improving their own lives as they are fully capable of doing. There is no winning lottery ticket that is just one vote away for them, yet they keep acting like it and it's sad.

Their option is to realize that inundating themselves in music and culture that celebrates violence, gangs, sex and drugs has destroyed their families and laid waste to their opportunities.

Their option is to realize Conservatives and Republicans aren't the devil. Cops aren't the boogeyman. And church is a place for worship, not politics.

Their option is to change themselves for the better, and when they do, maybe they'll base their vote on what is good for this country not what will get them the biggest welfare check.

 

Those are so nice and probably true.
But it's a culture and somehow someway, another culture needs to be shown and followed through that there are options.
To be in such a situation usually stems from seeing no other options. Even though they may be there, they are invisible.