Should gay and trans people have their own bathrooms?

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Should gay and trans people have their own bathrooms?

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  2. No

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A 210 pound male should not have access to a private room with a 98 pound female. I have 2 daughters, so its a safety issue for me. If women want to use the mens room, no big deal.

    To accommodate all the new genders, we would need 12 bathrooms. The symbols should be the appropriate combination of nuts and bolts.
     
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  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry that you are so offended about people having basic liberties.
     
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  3. Nemesis

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    Didn't we fight a war about crazy people wanting their own country?
     
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  4. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I seem to remember something about that.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They should use the bathroom according to the genitalia that they were born with. If they strap bits on or cut bits off, then they still use the same bathroom from the start, bathrooms are not interested with the problems that go through their minds.
     
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  6. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    And who should be inspecting genitals for entry?
     
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    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    Then the trans man who now has a penis should be exposing that penis to cis women in a changing room situation?
     
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  8. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    All those genders existed long before they became a political topic and 2 bathrooms were just fine before.
     
  9. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    People who are easily offended over life things can always find a country where there's no thing that offends them.
     
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    I couldn't quite grasp the conflict here. Is your suggestion that gay folks make the same conflict in a bathroom or locker room that a trans person might? So trans skirt wearing boy assaulting a girl in a restroom isn't a concern of yours? I mean, you'd have to be entirely absent from modern US dialogs about it. Can you explain the last time a gay boy raped and assaulted another boy in a restroom/lockerroom? Turn the table, lesbian girl assaulting other girl? same scenario.

    I think the real conflict here is that for some reason, the trans conversation is so obviously attacking folks who are gay. Like, assimilation or transition is required So why? So folks won't turn out gay? I cannot understand this liberal/progressive narrative here. Why is it necessary to physically maim folks instead of allowing them to be gay?
     
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    Can you identify more than 5 times in our nation's history where this has actually happened?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Things have changed. Men in dresses were not using the womens restroom.
     
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    Iran or Saudi Arabia?
     
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    Oh, yeah---the violent assault by trans people happens so frequently! We have to save our children!

    https://www.washingtonblade.com/202...t-in-girls-bathroom-at-va-school-is-straight/

    First of all, he is not transgender,” the boy’s mother told DailyMail.com in a Nov. 2 interview. “And I think this is all doing an extreme disservice to those students who actually identify as transgender,” the newspaper quoted her as saying.

    The mother, who agreed to the interview on grounds that she was not identified to protect the identity of her son, said her son identifies as heterosexual and absolutely does not identify as female.

    LGBTQ activists have said the backlash against both the Virginia state and Loudoun County transgender non-discrimination policies — which spread to school districts across the country that have similar policies — was fueled by what they have said all along was unsubstantiated claims that the boy was transgender or gender fluid.

    Conservative activists who strongly oppose the school systems’ trans supportive bathroom policies have said it was those policies that enabled the 15-year-old boy, who police say was wearing a skirt at the time of the May 28 sexual assault incident, to enter the girl’s bathroom to target the girl.

    Since that time, testimony in a Loudoun County Juvenile Court where the boy was being prosecuted revealed that the 14-year-old girl who brought the charges against him said she and the boy had two consenting sexual encounters in a girl’s bathroom at Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn, Va., prior to the incident in which the boy allegedly assaulted her.

    According to the Washington Post, whose reporter attended one of the juvenile court hearings, the girl testified that she agreed to meet the boy in the girl’s bathroom after he requested a third sexual encounter there, but she told him she did not want to have sex at that time.

    “The girl previously testified in court that the defendant threw her to the ground in the bathroom and forced her to perform two sexual acts on him after she told him that she was not interested in sex on that occasion,” the Post reported in a story last week about the final outcome of the case.

    At a Jan. 12 sentencing hearing, Loudoun County Juvenile Court Chief Judge Pamela Brooks placed the boy on the Virginia sex offender registry for life, the Post reported. After ruling in an earlier hearing in November that the evidence confirmed that the boy was responsible for sexually assaulting the two girls, Brooks sentenced the boy to a residential treatment facility rather than a juvenile detention facility and required that he remain on probation until he turns 18, the Post reported.

    “He’s a 15-year-old boy that wanted to have sex in the bathroom, with somebody that was willing,” the boy’s mother told DailyMaiI.com. “And they’re twisting this just enough to make it a political hot button issue,” she said.

    In her interview with the newspaper, the mother said her son wasn’t gender fluid despite the reports, which she confirms, that he wore a skirt at the time of the first of the two sexual assaults.
     
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    Didn't Perjury Failure Greene say that she was concerned about Pete Buttigieg attacking people in bathrooms?
     
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    Obviously Roy Moore.
     
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    Hey, now, I'm sure they'll let Ted Nugent (who wrote a song about raping a 13 year old) in there as well!
     
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    What about Kid Rock, who's been known to knock back a Bud Light or 8?
     
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    I'd rather him knock them back than shoot them up in one of his transphobic temper tantrums. But, hey, those cans are his, and he's free to be as much of a pathetic child as he wants to be about it. If I hadn't given up drinking, I'd be tipping some back with my trans friends. For now, I'll just tip some Topo Chico back with them instead.
     
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    So the trans shooter in Nashville didn't happen? Kid in VA while wearing a skirt didn't assault a girl in the bathroom? I get it. It's messy at best for the narrative that trans folks just want to get along, be left alone, blah blah blah.

    But what it really says, to gay folks, is that being gay can be cured by becoming trans, even though living as a trans you will never be able to experience sexual normalcy again, as if that's a win.. Nah. I'd rather be gay. What the conversation is telling me more and more is that folks on the left don't support folks being gay anymore. So, instead of being gay, become conforming to the "gender" you wish to be. I suppose no one asked me, for example if I want to be a woman, cause hellz no. But,. being trans is all about creating that acceptable illusion that makes stuck up liberals feel better that they don't have to see two boys kissing on the streets. Is that it?

    Here's a thing to consider. When you lie to folks about the "beauty" of being trans which leads to a lifetime of regret, did you do that person a service? I don't think so. And when a MTF trans guy gets into the showers with chicks why do they have to simple ignore the dick in the room? We wouldn't just let anyone into their lockerrom, would we? Or are you one of those people who believe women having it coming to them? Hard to know.
     
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    When you think that ONE instance equals "FREQUENTLY," as you just claimed you did, then you have a lot to learn.
     
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    I didn't use the term "frequently". that was another poster, whom, if you believe they are in error, you are perfectly free to respond to. Since I didn't make that claim, it isn't mine to defend.
     
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    Your response was to the quote about "frequently." Did you forget which post you responded to?

    Your response to: Oh, yeah---the violent assault by trans people happens so frequently!

    was to identify a SINGLE instance. Are all conservatives guilty just because of the actions of Jim David Adkisson?
     
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    We have all-gender bathrooms at golf courses in Florida (its a new thing), but it makes sense, since 90% of the players are men. Before, we had men's and ladies rooms, and the ladies rooms were almost always empty.

    The signs look like this. It may only be a matter of time until the FL government criminalizes them.

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    A biological male, or trans male post surgery should be exposing their penis in a female restroom at all. There are stalls, with doors. The men's room with open urinals is more of a problem for women I would think.
     

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