Should Health Insurance Companies be bailed out?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Bluesguy, Jan 13, 2014.

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Do you support the repeal of the Obama Health Insurance Company Bailout?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    82.8%
  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not in substance nor in rollout. But if you liked how Romney did it so much why did you vote for Obama?
     
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    why would they need a bailout..they are sitting on a gold mine..once the ACA takes full affect they will be the richest firms in this country
     
  3. goober

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    So what were the differences, I went through both of them and didn't notice any difference....
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    I voted no but, if 'too big to fail' bankers deserve bailouts, then so do health insurance companies.
     
  5. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    I know we never agree on anything, but here is a very clear example of something we SHOULD agree on! As long as BOTH of us, on the Left and on the Right, keep nominating and electing STOOGES like Idiot Bush and Idiot Obama, who are only puppets for the Federal Reserve System and international bankers, we'll continue to see every free-market principle smashed to pieces when it suits the interests of this international financial hegemony. And yet, we on the Right, and you on the Left continue to dredge these clowns up to run the White House. It makes me want to puke!

    One last time: there is NO justification whatever for any company or corporation to get a "bailout" or "rescue" from the Federal Government of the United States of America!
     
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    I can mostly agree (except that I will always think the any Republican is more than simply a self serving stooge, and a darker, stinkier turd than any Democrat).
     
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    Any health insurance company that fails should be taken over, preferably by the people who work there.
     
  8. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Might as well. You don't want the whole house of cards to come crashing down, do you?
     
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    The health insurance companies were slobbering all over Obamacare when all they could see was the mandate to force everyone to buy insurance from them. Now that it isn't the rosy deal that they expected they can choke on all 20,000 pages of the bill.

    In the end Obamacare will collapse because it has an incredibly flawed design. This isn't new either, all the predictions from the critics of Obamacare have come to fruition or will be by the end of this year.
     
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    I don't support bailing out any company that fails. I didn't support the two bailouts that occurred in 2008 and 2009 and I don't support this either.
     
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    No, I support scrapping ObamaCare and replacing it with a national health plan paid for by payroll deductions and sin taxes with NO charges to business owners except for their personal payroll. I'd help the health insurance companies get retraining at the local jucos.
     
  12. yDraigGoch

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    Insurance companies should not be bailed out. They should be thrown out, and replaced by a single payer system

    On several occasions, Walter Reed hospital has done studies to compare their cost of treatment to the private sector. They show that for a comparable procedure, their costs are 22% to 24% lower. The reason?

    They don't have to employ a lot of people to handle the paper work, make phone calls, use lawyers to arbitrate, follow up on payments and all the rest of the garbage that goes with handling insurance claims.

    And with the one exception, when some of their work was farmed out to a private contractor during the Cheney administration, their care is rated as one of the best in the world.
     
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    If Walmart didn't sell cheap, genetically modified, processed food, and supply the carts for these folks to roll around in, could be a different outcome, as well. Too much to ask from the profiteer though, I know.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    I wouldn't expect you would.

    http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/saunders/article/Romneycare-versus-Obamacare-3436531.php

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    Why, they have no financial interest in it, where would they derive a claim against the other citizens who do own it?
     
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    LOL, did you read that attack piece, it's all platitudes and slogans, and no facts, no wonder you thought you hit the jackpot.

    I asked what are the actual differences, and you link to something that doesn't actually explain a single difference, instead it has stuff like this

    Heres something that explains the differences, and points out that ObamaCare is "more conservative" than RomneyCare....
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Dec...re-Lessons-for-today-s-shutdown-debacle-video
     
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    Feel free to sign up as one of the volunteer payers. As for me, I want the governments hands out of my pockets and its nose out of my ass.
     
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    This is Obama's way of saying the health care insurance companies are too big to fail.
    Like Wall Street
    Like the banks
    Like GM
    Or the fact that all of these paid a lot of money to his election campaign.
     
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    Bail out the insurance companies? What? provide yet another subsidy for big business corporate fat-cats?

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    Why must we have that? There's something wrong with the idea that people should be responsible adults and take care of themselves?
     
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    Nobody expects what to happen, the fascist government to bankrupt the insurance companies to have an excuse to impose socialized medicine on the US?

    That's EXACTLY what the honest people expect to happen. NOBODY expects the young and healthy to sign up for insurance they clearly don't need. Only the ones still stupid enough to support Obama would do that.

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    Sounds like a plan to the Mayor. The insurance industry supported O-BAAA-AAA-AAA-MACare under the impression that they were going to get a bailout, why not pull the taxpayer's rug out from under their feet?
     
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    Starch-based foods are cheaper than a healthy mix of proteins and fresh vegetables.

    Also, most poor people are lazy, it's why they're poor, and real food requires real effort to produce, as opposed to popping twelve hot pockets in the microwave and having dinner ready in six minutes.

    And, of course, there's the fact that people who can't be bothered to learn how to read won't bother to read the lables they didn't learn how to read in the first place.

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    Not every state is stuffed to the brim with parents who abuse their children by being DemocRAT voters.

    Many states are still populated by Americans.

    Also, it's harder to escape from Hawaii than the other states, something driving about driving across statelines just doesn't work there.

    And Vermont is going to discover that it can't tax people enough to pay for all their health care. Expect people wanting a handout to show up, and people not wanting to pay for it to leave. Naturally, a state stupid enough to keep Patsy Leahy in office is stupid enought to try to ruin it's medical institutions, too.
     
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    The Mayor supports scapping O-BAAA-AAA-AAA-MACare.

    That's it. The federal government has zero constitutional authority to provide or interfere in health insurance issues. They did their part when they prevented interstate insurance coverage...wasn't that more than enough damage? They should go back to doing only what they're allowed to do, which to REGULATE INTERSTATE trade, and nothing more. Insurance companies should be allowed to sell their products across state lines, subject to REASONABLE protections for the people as enacted by Congress and permitted by the Constitution, and let things go as they will.

    Again, the necessary solution isn't complicated. It's almost always "go back and start obeying the Constitution".

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    Why are you insulting those Obama voters?
     
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    Truth is truth.
     
  24. Willys

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    Seems your thread topic asks a different question than does your poll topic...

    Thread: Should Health Insurance Companies be bailed out?

    > I'd reply NO, they should not be bailed out.

    Poll: Do you support the repeal of the... bailout?

    > I'd reply YES, I support repealing the part of the ACA that legislates an insurance bailout.
     
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    How is a self reliant conservative a more self serving stooge or turd than than Julia, pajama boy, or Hilary and Joe {and/or a plethora of other democrats}?

    I've just listened to Dan Pfeiffer on the news. I can't imagine a bigger stooge any where on earth.
     

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