Should Indiana be boycotted?

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Should Indiana be boycotted?

  1. Yes, boycott the state.

    9 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Yes, but only boycott those businesses that discriminate.

    8 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. Nope.

    19 vote(s)
    52.8%
  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol!!!!!

    if they were allowed to keep Christians out of their store, they would gladly do so.

    they don't like Christianity one bit,
     
  2. therooster

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    Yes, its really cool. Maybe the Jew not getting served will open his own store and sell to whoever the hell he pleases.
     
  3. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    For whatever reason they want.
    You want to force small business owners to provide a service. Why should they?

    It's not like the business is the only option. If you don't like it, you're free to take your business elsewhere.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    right, Jim Crow was such a great society.

    different stores, different buses, different restaurants, different (*)(*)(*)(*)ing water fountains, all based on race.

    real dream come true. Jesus would certainly approve.
     
  5. therooster

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    I'm sure your quick to point out their discriminating ways. Lol. That was a joke. We know christians don't count.
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not if we have the right to tell them to go away and find another store.

    I know lots of people would love to kick Christians out of their stores.
     
  7. therooster

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    Not making a gay cake is race related how? Not policing a gay parade is now racist. Ok
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not policing a Mosque, is discrimination.

    if that's ok, then my cousin can refuse service to Christians.

    LOTS of Jewish and Muslim shop owners in NYC. Many of them would love to tell Christians to shove off.
     
  9. therooster

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    Go ahead and tell them. See if your quick to defend christianity being descriminated against. Hypocrisy much. Or is it only gays and Muslims you care to defend.
     
  10. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    There is nothing wrong with such a law. It is a good law.Homosexuality is repulsive and perverted. And no-one should be forced to participate in, to celebrate, or to serve such disgusting behavior in a personal nature such as weddings or marriages. How dare anyone to say otherwise. Bake your own damned cake....or not.
     
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    OMG! I hope that you are not implying that homosexuality is not a normal and natural state of human behavior! If you are then be prepared for the backlash that soon will follow.
     
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    Perfectly worded , I agree 100%
     
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    Angie's List canceling Eastside expansion over RFRA - "The continuing blowback over Indiana's new "religious freedom" law hit home Saturday, with Indianapolis-based Angie's List announcing it is canceling a $40 million headquarters expansion. The decision is a direct result of passage of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, co-founder and chief executive officer Bill Oesterle said Saturday."
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    We should boycot everyone who signed the federal RFRA, like Clinton and the Democrat's new leader Schumer.
     
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    No reason to boycott against those folks not hiding behind their religion to discriminate. Remember, there are quite a few Indiana folks who aren't happy with this law too, and they don't deserve the negative publicity that might hurt their businesses.

    I still think any business whose owners feel they must exercise their special rights as religious people ought to be required to post notice of the possibility outside their businesses. "This establishment may choose to deny service to you and/or other members of your party if we so desire because of the bible".

    Which is funny because the bible doesn't direct Christians to deny service to anyone. In fact, Jesus was pretty clear about not judging people at all since that's kind of his family's job and they're not hiring. But there are some religious folks who don't let the bible get in the way of a good old fashioned hating.
     
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    There is no greater entitlement to refuse to serve a black man, or gay couple than there is to pay your employees $3.24 an hour, refuse to pay overtime, take down the smoke detectors and fire extinguishers required by fire code, remove all ingredient or chemical labeling off products sold, fire an employee once you learn she is pregnant , erase all those expiration and' use by' dates or decide not to sanitize dishes . Those are all acts consistent with the adoration of private business 'rights', just as this love of the right to discriminate. These businesses purport to serve a public good and value in their communities beyond the generation of profit for the owners. If they succeed, they stay open. Insofar as they fail, they get fined and closed down because there is no right or entitlement to own or run a business. It is a privilege granted by government.

    I would boycott the state until it requires businesses not to discriminate or to place a public notice of intent to discriminate based on orientation, race or creed on their front entrance and all advertising including internet and phone books. Gays or blacks or Jews should be on notice before they drive, park their car, and walk in. Subsequently, boycott the business.
     
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    First I like the fact that business leaders are making their opinion heard with their money and actions is good for us all. It speaks to the GOP in Indy in the language they understand.

    However one should keep in mind that over 3000 people rallied in downtown Indianapolis yesterday, across political, religious and cultural spectrum. The Governor is already looking to mitigate the law. A growing group is providing a labeling for business who won't discriminate. A fake news story about a business that is glad for the law because they already don't serve gays already caused a huge backlash. What will be wild will be when two things happen.

    1. There is a law in Indiana that an employer must allow employees to bring their guns onto their property if they keep it locked in the car. Now this law will allow employers to ignore this law for religious reasons. I am waiting for the Quaker owner to do this and watch the right wing lose their minds.

    2. Unlike a huge corporation with a huge footprint think of a small business that decides to use this law to discriminate and the weight of the anger that is seething comes down on that business. Boycotts, protests, and eventually the business folding.
     
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    Boycotting the state would be counterproductive.

    I do support boycotting any company that conducts business in a way I don't agree with. Very few businesses will discriminate and the best way to handle a situation like this is to make the citizens of Indiana aware so they ask for the law to change.

    I would personally boycott any "mean" business but I would reward others by spending my money there.

    I would (and might) write letters to the editors of large newspapers expressing how sad it is that some people in this day and age will discriminate. I would ask them to go out of their way to spend their money at businesses that do not discriminate.
     
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    fine by me. let them leave the state or don't come here to begin with. if they don't like it here...................there's always DC where they are coddled and loved.
    and so far, your poll agrees with me..........
     
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    You're joking right?
     
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    So you would support a policy of "No Negros Allowed" at your motel?
     
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    What about the 19 other states who already have religious freedom acts like Indiana's?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...laws-like-indianas-that-no-one-is-boycotting/

    Do you give those 19 states a bye and a I don't care about them? Indiana is the 20th state to pass such a law. Why all the hoopla about Indiana and not the other states? Is this a case where it is perfectly okay for 19 states to have that law but not Indiana?

    Do we give our blessing to Rhode Island, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Virginia, South Carolina, Florida and the rest, but not Indiana?
     
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    I am not anti-gay... what I am is anti gays-are-a-special-class... I am anti-anyone-is-a-special-class. I do not understand why gays think being gay is the only way to be? Not very diverse now are they?
     
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    As someone who strongly supports the right of anyone to refuse service to anyone for any reason (unless a prior contract states otherwise) - I think this is fantastic. Make your preference heard through boycott and social media!

    Clearly I don't agree with them.

    Labeling is another positive step forward, good work!

    As someone who is a supporter of absolute gun freedom (no background checks, no serial numbers, etc) - I find that law to be grossly totalitarian. Whether or not someone is allowed a gun on a property should be entirely up to the owner of that property. State intervention to the contrary is no better than gun control measures.

    That would be a strong disincentive for discrimination. Alas, the customer is always right. People are generally not racists or homophobes. They want you to discriminate against hobos, those not conforming to the dress code, etc - but not against races or sexual orientations. They will make their preferences known by exercising the same right to refuse service as the business owner does when he discriminates - and go elsewhere.
     
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    "Special rights" is not Equal Rights. Legally, there is no such thing as a "Special Right." "Special Rights" is a term that social conservatives and libertarians use to refer to laws granting rights to one or more groups which are not extended to other groups. Such laws, like affirmative action, etc, have been legally challenged and found to be constitutional by virtue of Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution...among other statutes.
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