Should Israel have been created in Germany?

Yes, they did. Many did not want to leave, and when prompted with an offer to be shipped to the Levant, many did not find this attractive. It was mostly the very, very desperate Jews who ended up going to the Levant. Many wanted to stay in Germany and after the war, many wanted to go to other parts of Europe- or the US- as well, but immigration to the US was denied.

 

Of course, to respect a tradition doesn't mean to be blind and not to see reality ...

 

I'm talking genetic/scientific terms, not the stories. Aryan is a genetic subcategory of the Caucasian race that denotes Indians and most northern Europeans. The term Hamite did come from the Biblical fairytale, but it is not because the tale is true, it is just because of the way they are described in the Bible. They are swarthy but not African, and the followers of Ham, but in genetics, this denotes people who are of the Caucasian race but are not Jewish nor Aryan. I'll give you the Wikipedia quotes. "European authors classified the Hamitic race as a sub-group of the Caucasian race, along with the Semitic race – thus grouping the non-Semitic populations" "Genetic studies indicate that modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Mizrahi specifically), Levantine Arabs, Assyrians, Samaritans, Syriacs-Arameans, Maronites, Druze, Mandaeans, and Mhallami, all have an ancient indigenous common Near Eastern heritage which can be genetically mapped back to the ancient Fertile Crescent, but often also display genetic profiles distinct from one another, indicating the different histories of these peoples" (hence the Semitic subgroup) "The Aryan race was a racial grouping commonly used in the period of the late 19th century to the mid 20th century to describe peoples of European and Western Asian heritage" (so basically any Caucasians left)

 

Note that scholars [scientific scholars] tell us that we all are descendants of far African ancestors ...

 

100% false.

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only the Nazis and KKK believe in such silliness.

its 2015 man, not 1944

 

ijust highlighted the interesting bit and snipped the other irrelevant stuff.

inotice how you just conveniently overlooked the small 2,000 year gap between "the Kingdom of Israel" and "modern Jewih ppl"

almost like..there was these Israelites once upon a time yeh and then errr, then there was these jewish people in europe 2,000 years later, they is the same ppl's man huhuh

 

yeah, and the Jews of Europe and North Africa/Middle East just happen to have the J1 haplotype in large percentages.

funny, how most black people do not.

which shows they are not of Levantine ancestry, which means they cannot be descended from the Israelites.

 

yes iknow this but why do you tell me that?

 

because you believe in the Biblical Table of Nations, not the Out of Africa theory.

 

j1 haplo is of jewish ppl, not jews. You have no proof that Israelites are j1, you know how iknow this? because we dont know what haplo the Israelites were. you are going round in circles son. you cannot even convince yourself that is why you keep repeating yourself like a mantra.

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they are the same thing.

 

lol!!!!

so the Palestinians, Asyrians, Yemenites, Kurds, all other natives of the region have J1, but the ancient Jews did not?

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using this logic then we can all safely assume that ancient north america natives were all saxons. >>>MOD EDIT Off Topic Removed<<<

 

Saxons entered North America in the 1600s.

Native Americans go back 30,000 years.

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you assumed that a modern day population in any given place has always been there for 3,000 years, lmao.

that is the funniest thing ive read all week. iguess that means that the whites in south afrika have always been there, like since the eruption of Thera in 2,000bce.

To quote the gifted one, it seems that you are so far in denial it can only be that you are under the influence of some kind of cult and when any contradictory examples prove the futility of your position you become all irrational and nonsensical

 

Oh my. A big fibber. Kennewick Man, a Eurasian, predates Native Americans and his remains are less than 1,000 years old.

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no I didn't.

you simply misunderstood, misread, miscomprehended my comments.

 

Because in any way you look at the matter, you can arrive at the conclusion that we should think we are all humans, so to discriminate in any way is "immature".

I use the term "immature" since it's human to feel mistrust towards the different and to tend to discriminate a bit, but we can rely on our superior thought to cross over this. In democracies like Israel, after a period of "mistrust" [which can generate discriminating behaviors, more rarely really racist behaviors] the society finds a way to "digest the difference". The process can be more or less long, more or less difficult, also depending on the general context in which the society stays. Israel, for example, is in a context of extreme tense and usually in such a context mistrust towards who apparently looks different [reality is that African Jews are Jews, period] tends to be present more longer than in peaceful and quite societies.

 

you assumed that because some jewish ppl share a genetic link with modern day palestinians then that must mean those same jewish ppl are descended from the biblical Israelites.
Wow, talk about totally failed logic.

 

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, just like Scotland belongs to the Scots.

The Jews must go back to Germany and take back their properties from the German thieves. If the Jews do not have the courage to do this, we will give em Scottish whiskey to help em.

The Jews must give back the lands they have stolen from the Palestinians.

 

its logical to assume that since the majority of European Jews share common genetics with inhabitants of the Levant, that they are indeed descendants of the ancient Jews, as the ancient Jews were fundamentally the same ethnicity as their neighbors.

 

its illogical to assume that since jewish ppl share common genes with palestinians then the jewish ppl must be descended from biblical Israelites. this assumes that palestinians are also descended from biblical Israelites. there are too many variables which makes this idea merely a belief or tradition and has no place in science. you are entitled to believe whatever you like as iam entitled to show how you cannot ever proof such a ludicrous idea.

 

The Jews of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East possess Levantine genes.

These genes are shared by many inhabitants of the Middle East.

The Jews claim their ancestors were the ancient Judeans.

The ancient Judeans were brothers of all the other peoples of the Middle East.

2+2=4, bro.

 

so basically u are of the opinion that any group that inhabits a region, like Saxons in America, have always been there for thousands of years because.........they live there now!

Utter garbage mate, in fact it's not garbage. It is baby speak

 

is that what YOU believe?

that's very silly, bro.

Just because I live in the USA doesn't mean my ancestors were Navajo or Mohican.

that's a pretty silly argument to make.

 

The Dutch have the same genes as South Africans . That means the Dutch are descendants of the ancient South Africans from 1,000bce