Should Military Service be mandatory for all?

Depends what he's doing.. And which block.

 

If no draft, then how about all politicians who vote for war be required to fight in that war?

Or if too old then must send one of their offspring?

 

You pal have no f-ing clue about the history of the cold war and of Reagan's accomplishment of putting the former soviet union's communism into the trashbin of history

 

Why is this hare-brained idea so evergreen?

The military does not want untrainable slobs.

 

Reagan accomplished nothing. The Soviet Union's collapse had NOTHING to do with Reagan, NOTHING. The Soviet Union collapsed because of its own internal problems, and its own leadership's lack of will to continue to do what would have needed to be done in order to hold the Union together.

 

"If no draft, then how about all politicians who vote for war be required to fight in that war?

Or if too old then must send one of their offspring?"

Taxcutter says:
How about an easier plan that is not brain-dead? Don't elect politicians that lead the country into war?

 

Old Jelly-brain had this stupid mind set that there must be a winner for a war to end. No standing down and trying to make peace. Too wimpy. So he kicked Gorby in the shins and did a victory dance and Gorby went along with it because the only alternative was slow self-destruction for the world.

Like I say, the right wing doesn't know what a real man is.

 

Bloody good deal for the Rushblob, Hannity, Levin, Savage and Bill O.

 

My god, how clueless can you be. This isn't just about beefing up our security techniques at our airports. We need to do more investigation into the many current terror cells that are being formed inside at least 70% of America's mosques. Do you know how many terror attacks have been stopped because of our investigative finesse and of leaks coming from alert citizens?

We are fighting a much different style enemy these days where conventional warfare and conventional support of having just our shrinking list of enlisted men fend off these unconventional enemies isn't going to work. No, we need to conscript all available and qualified males to train in our military so as to have hands on schooling on how to thwart these terrorists.

 

"Bloody good deal for the Rushblob, Hannity, Levin, Savage and Bill O."

Taxcutters asys:
Not bad for Chris Mathews, Rachel Madcow, Brian Williams, and Arianna Huffington, either. Not to mention Soros, Buffett, and Immelt.

 

Got any right wing talkers who served longer than Randi Rhodes?

 

Agreed.
But would unpopularity be enough to stop the government from declaring war?
Perhaps anyone that is for war should be required to take an active part in it.
Or if they don't want to fight in it, then at least be required to clean up the mess when it is over.

 

COOL! Great idea!

Let them draft all the educated ones for the next war!

Wouldn't that be a welcome change of pace.

Enough "untrainable slobs" have died already serving their country.

 

Would be happy to oblige:

The Constitution says:

To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress

 

So you learned something from your George W. fiasco after all.
Glad to hear it!

 

It would be nice for those who declare war to have more to do with the war instead of just sitting there saying "yep it's good" or "yep it's bad." If we're going to send our service members off to fight, kill, and die then there needs to be a good *******n reason to do it. We really don't have that standard, we just kind of do it.

As for the volunteer thing I'd say that absent of a draft that not having enough volunteers to fight would prevent a war from happening. Unfortunately part of serving is the esprit de corps, so basically it's about being there for each other rather than the politics of the war. It's part of why I keep getting the calling to join again, but I'm getting too old.

 

The Navy was supposed to be the only large standing force because it had to be where it was needed YESTERDAY.

So how does that require a large standing Army? The heavy lifting was supposed to be done by the militia.

 

I'm thinking not, although it should be changed.

I think that it should be open to women, since most combat arms positions are opening to women, but I also think it should be made voluntary. Since Student Loans and Pell Grants require Selective Service registration, by making it voluntary, the only people who get those extra benefits will be people who have already volunteered to be drafted if the need arises. It will create a smaller draft pool, but one that actually has an obligation to serve. Why should we waste the limited dollars for Pell Grants and Student Loans on people who wouldn't register for selective service if it was made voluntary?

Then there would be no argument that the draft is "slavery" or something like that. Everyone who would potentially be drafted would have volunteered for the chance.

 

"So you learned something from your George W. fiasco after all."

Taxcutter says:
...and the Wilson fiasco...and the FDR fiasco...and the Truman fiasco...and the JFK/LBJ fiasco...all considerably bigger fiascoes that those of GW Bush.

Walked into that one, didn't you?

 

Yes, I agree.

 

The Soviet system was dysfunctional; its empire was collapsing; the cupboard was bare. And Reagan's surging military budgets, without question, brought this internal crisis to a head.

This is what Gorby himself had to say in October of 1986, days before he was to offer Reagan a groundbreaking disarmament plan......"We will be pulled into an arms race that is beyond our capabilities, and we will lose it because we are at the limit of our capabilities....If the new round [of an arms race] begins, the pressures on our economy will be unbelievable."

So you can see that Reagan's strength and determination in dealing with Gorby and the evil empire combined with his ever aggressive Star Wars speech was more than enough to crumble the former soviet union, and with these facts being shoved in your face, any and all of your lib talking points are once again shown to be nothing but hot air.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_.../06/ron_and_mikhails_excellent_adventure.html

 

well no the militia is not the people. Lets look at the 2nd amendment.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The commas in the sentence separates the subjects. We we look at what was happening at the time. the american people had just fought a war against a tyrannical militia and they feared there would one day be a time when once again the people would have to fight a tyrannical malita once again so their right to bare arms shal not be infringed.

 

I don't think it should be mandatory for all because some are not fit for duty, whether it be for medical, mental or other legitimate reasons (college deferment is not legitimate). However a draft would do wonders for those who sit back and act as cheerleaders; once you start sending politicians kids into a war zone, then perhaps they'll think twice before committing the United States to a war.

 

Gorby supported what I was saying. He was tired of one-upmanship and old Jelly-brain would not let him stop peaceably. He had to BEAT Gorby.

That's what happens when half-men start thinking with their balls.

 

I honestly think that this would be a terrible idea.

We are an all volunteer service for several reasons, but foremost in my mind is that fact that we don't need a bunch of fat gorged idiots who don't want to be there in the first place draining our economy by eating up hardworking American tax dollars.

Did you even consider the fiscal impact?