Should Penn State lose all NCAA titles?

Now that it is clear Paterno was in on Sandusky's student rape gig, should Penn State be allowed to keep their titles from the time of the first proven rape? NCAA rules are pretty strict about students receiving money. If they can bar an entire team for paying off student athletes, surely they can have the power to bar a university that covered up multiple rapes in the athletic department with the University President and Head Football coach aware of the transgressions.

It's pretty disgusting to know the last memories Paterno had was knowing thousands marched in protest of him being fired for allowing the rapes to continue. Something more needs to be done than punish Sandusky. He's only the perp that was enabled by the University President and hopefully ex-hall of fame Head Coach.

I support all their championships be revoked from the date of the first proven rape to present, and a 5 year suspension for Bowl or Championship game eligibility along with taking away all athletic scholarships for 5 years. Apparently money is the only way to keep the perverted university from raping our children in the name of popularity.

 

No, they should keep their titles.

The kids playing ball won those titles. Penn State has enough discrace as it is.

They never (as far as we know) cheated to win. They won the games (arguably) fair and square.

 

I know how you feel. Taking away scholarships won't help though. At least 2 people walked in on rapes and walked away. One called his Dad to ask what to do. It's all so insane. What kind of person looks the other way?

 

When you can link the players to the rapes, then we'll talk.

Till then...oh hell no!

 

What's the problem? With today's liberal moral relativity and elevation of the gay lifestyle it's just fine for grown men to poke little boys....isn't it?

 

For a libertarian, you sound more like a theocrat.

Why can't people get the picture that gay doesn't equal pedophile? Should I assume all straight people are pedos because of Warren Jeffs?

 

Moral relativists are theocrats too, it's just that they do not share their theocratic morals with anyone else but expect everyone else to accept their relative morality even if it runs counter to basic human dignity. Gays are more likely to be pedophiles...after all they have a whole organization dedicated to buggering little boys...look up NAMBLA.

 

Correlation doesn't imply causation. Just because NAMBLA exists it doesn't have any bearing on the likelihood of gay men being pedos.

You normally make logical arguments, but when it comes to this topic, you seem to be very illogical.

 

One of my many problems is I don't understand sports. But, I think everyone guilty of covering for the disgusting pedophile should be prosecuted. If they covered for the disgusting pedophile for profit, they should lose it. Punishing anyone who did wrong makes sense. Punishing those who are not culpable sounds quite liberal.

 

They have a statue of Joe Paterno in front of the stadium. He was their head coach for 46 years. He didn't get a traffic ticket. He enabled the sexual abuse of children. I wonder what they will do with that statue?

 

Universities are punished all the time for giving money and gifts to student athletes. It doesn't stop the NCAA from taking titles and stopping eligibility. Colleges should be held accountable for atrocious acts disregarding student welfare. When the top brass conceals a rapist they keep on staff for no other reason than reputation and winning, there should be repercussions.

 

Sports can mean many different things to many different people. In college, it brings in billions of dollars of revenue and year round advertising for schools. Any person that knew about the crimes is just as guilty as the person committing them. The look-out in a robbery might not be stealing, but they are certainly involved in the crime itself. Taking the titles away from the school is punishing the school. It is not punishing the athletes. Everyone still knows who won. Unfortunately, the athletes played under a program that not only condoned rape, it helped propagate it.

 

The players are irrelevant as always have been in most instances. The NCAA suspends entire programs for poor decisions by coaches and athletic directors. They don't concern themselves with making it fair for the athletes that walked the line. They concern themselves with how to stop it from happening next time.

 

I'm pretty sure it has a lot do with most pedophiles in the news are gay.

 

Penn state lose? It would be the NCAA that loses. Nobody wants to free colleges, student athletes and their parents from the bondage of the NCAA now do they? One of the biggest scams in the history of collegiate sports.

 

If Penn State has any decency, they will donate the statue for scrap metal to a charity of some sort. Abused children would be a good start.

 

How exactly would the NCAA lose? How exactly is the NCAA a scam?

 

Gay does not equal pedophile. But pedophile seems to equal gay.

In all these big cases (Catholic priests, Penn State, etc) why are all the victims boys? Priests have access to boys and girls, but they only go after boys. Pedo = gay.

 

Keep the titles.

The NCAA should ban for 10 years or more the football program at Penn State. Penn State lost all sense of propriety and morality because they were corrupted by the football program, they covered up and protected Sandusky because they were protecting the cash and prestige of the football program. The football program was the source of the Penn State corruption and it should be abolished.

 

Moral scum.

I think that they should be stripped of every title that was won over Paterno's tenure, including his coach of the year awards.

He put football ahead of stopping children from being raped. The man had the moral backbone of a jellyfish.

 

this is real life imitating Hollywood, we've seen it in movies and tv dramas but I'd never think in anyone or any school organization would stoop to such low levels of immorality as to allow knowingly allow sexual abuse of children...

this is very very serious sh*tte and deserves a very very serious punishment be handed out to the football program and the school if need be...suspend the football program from all competition for 5 years, if uni administration other than the football program was found to be involved in the coverup as well then suspend all the entire school athletic programs for 5 years, this was a criminal cover up of a horrendous crime...

and a HUGE financial payout to the victims of the crime

IMO the school should be so ashamed of it's behaviour that it should voluntarily and permanently shut down the football program ...

 

no it's because most victims of female pedophiles don't complain...none of the friends I had had any complaints having an older woman fantasy come true...

 

a male only organization like the priesthood will attract a higher percentage of gays...females are abused by the priesthood as well...

 

Maybe if you're just talking about recent events. The Sandusky case is a lot higher profile than most in recent times, but Warren Jeffs got a lot of publicity as well.

Anyone who actually looks at the stats knows that most pedos are straight. That doesn't mean that straight people are more prone to be pedo, of course.

It's just sad that people can't figure out simple logical fallacies.

 

is there any evidence/stats that show gays are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals?...the pedo priest make headline news but most pedo cases I hear of are heterosexual in nature...gay priests get the news because they're in positions of absolute morality and unquestioned trust...