Should the US build a Military/Science Base On the Moon?

What if we encounter other life? Obviously they will be more advance than us. Logic would dictate for a chance of our kinds survival. Having an underground base. Would give us that chance. Better than anything that we are attempting with Mars at this point in time.

Not just Military. Scientific too.

 

Any Intelligent Alien Life or Race capable of Interstellar Travel would not be something we could fight.

They could simply drop a Bio-Weapon into our atmosphere from Orbit and wait for us to just die.

Fortunately any Alien Race capable of interstellar travel would have an understanding of the UFT or Unified Field Theory thus they could change energy to matter and back again.

Being able to do this means they could create any substance they wanted to make and as much as they wanted thus we would not have anything they need.

AboveAlpha

 

On that I would disagree. We may have the ability to harm them. We may be more violent than they are. Lets not forget we are the only species that we know of. That is out to screw over its own kind.

This doesn't mean they couldn't catch a disease from our planet despite needing any resources. Or from contact with our people. Also our atmosphere might not be acceptable to them naturally. Like Hawkings I would not be so eager to trust those coming to knock at the door.

Logic would dictate to seek a means of survivability. If one cannot hide on the planet. Then it must be elsewhere. Even if deliberately hidden. At this point in time. or even by 2020. The Moon is the only choice we have.

 

Do you have any idea the level of experience and technology a race would have to first obtain to achieve viable interstellar travel?

They would not make mistakes of that nature.

AboveAlpha

 

Well both Hawkings and Kaku believe that eventually something of ours will be seen. Which says nothing of our ownselves pushing things beyond a point of no return.

The treaty was made when only the Russians and ourselves could put something into space. It is obsolete now, IMO.

 

The existing KNOWN E.T. races are capable of turning on and off our Nuclear Launch systems.

This has happened many times as a warning to us.

If they wanted us GONE....we would have been GONE a long time ago.

And as they are Eon's in advancement to us I don't think any attempt by us to Militarize space or the Moon is a good idea.

AboveAlpha

 

That's true....but what I have noticed they were not able to turn off any lasers we had. Which N Korea has, Which China has, and Russia.

So they don't think of everything or they have other weaknesses.

We also have many ancient civilizations saying we are made in the same image as those that came here. If that is the case. We wouldn't know when they were around. Which, if true.....then there is a good reason for them not to reveal themselves.

Knowing what we do real good like.

 

If they can turn on and off Nuclear launch systems they certainly can do the same to any Direct Energy weapons systems.

AboveAlpha

 

I'm not a defeatist and if tech doesn't work. Then something Natural will. Of course not being able to see or know there is a place hidden on the moon or another planet. Gives better odds with survivability.

 

You are looking at this similar to surviving a nuclear war.

They would not use nukes.

As I said the level of technology required for a race to have viable interstellar travel is so high that being able to locate hidden underground locations whether they are on Earth or the Moon or Mars is not something that would be difficult for them to do.

Plus as I said once a race obtains such a high level of tech. they would be capable of Matter to Energy and back to Matter interchange thus they could easily create anything they might need.

AboveAlpha

 

I suppose in space you'd have an easier time too. No need to bother with gravity at all.

 

Not necessarily so. Moreso the destruction of the majority of a planet. At least with survivors. They can return to what is left. Moreover.....some may have come across a way to use Wormholes.

Also, I thought that launching a space station from the Dark side of the Moon. Would put one a bit closer to Mars. Could work as an advance beacon too.

 

We should have built a station there in the 1970's. We'd probably have a working Space Elevator by now and LaGrange cities. Better late than never though

It's BS that manned Space had little use. Half the unmanned uses didn't occur to us until manned uses made them obvious.

 

when USA will nuke china and hongkong and japan?

 

There would be no survivors if they dropped Bio-Weapons.

It's not like we would even know they were doing it and as since they have NOT done it then it stands to reason they have no need to do it.

Why would a super advanced Alien Race that want's for nothing want to invade Earth???

They are simply curious.

And they very much exist.

AboveAlpha

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A Manned Lunar Station would have enormous benefits such as mining of Rare Metals and gathering H3 for use in Fusion Reactors.

But there is no reason to build a Military Base on the Moon.

We don't need it.

AboveAlpha

 

Resources would be their priority. Again, any reasons they would have is irrelevant with our looking to logically ensure there is a survivability factor for our own kind.

 

OK....you keep missing a specific point I keep trying to explain to you so I will try again.

You post that RESOURCES would be the reason an Alien Race would attack us.

Now as I keep posting....No....no it would not be RESOURCES that an Alien Race would either visit us or invade us for.

Why?

Because if you can viably travel interstellar distances this means you have a form of technology and a knowledge of what is known as the Unified Field Theory which would allow you to transform Energy into any form of Matter you wanted and vice versa.

It takes a knowledge of the UFT or Unified Field Theory in order to warp or fold Space-Time as that is the only way along with Wormholes of traveling multiple or perhaps hundreds or many thousands of Light Years from one planet in our Galaxy to another in a different Solar System.

Thus E.T. is capable of generating massive amounts of energy most likely via Matter/Antimatter Reaction, Zero Point Energy Generation and Fusion.

With this energy they can not only Warp and Fold Space-Time which allows them to travel vast interstellar distances but as well they are capable of generating energy and transforming that energy into not only just any element or molecule such as WATER or HYDROCARBONS but as well they can also transform energy into much more complex molecular matrices such as MULTIPLE COMPOUND MATERIALS.

Thus they have anything and everything they want at the press of a button or perhaps spoken word or mental projection computer interface and they would not need a single thing from the Planet Earth except perhaps to satisfy their curiosity.

This is something that has been well defined and detailed in Science Fiction over many years as any Highly Advanced and Intelligent Alien Race that has the capability of viable Interstellar Travel would also have to posses the same technology as far as Matter/Energy Interchange.

Matter/Energy Interchange Technology is something every race that is capable of creating and understanding a UFT as the UFT is necessary FIRST to create and understand as without it you can't have viable interstellar travel.

UNLESS.....you happen to be an Alien Race that just happens to have both the very beginnings of Space Exploration such as Human's do and then just also happen to have a WORMHOLE right next to your planetary orbit that once a year whether that year is close in time to an Earth Year or is 100 Earth Years....your planets orbit around it's sun brings you close enough to fly spacecraft into this Wormhole which also just happens to exit out near EARTH'S SOLAR ORBIT....and then.....YES....in that 1 in 10^485th Chance.....we would likely want to develop some defenses to ward off possible Alien Raiders!! LOL!!!

Oh....and just to let you know.....a 1 in 150th chance is where it becomes a STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY!! LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Meh .....we still need to look to our survival and having a chance. Like Kaku said. It is the logical course of action for us. Which was and has been my point all along.

Naturally this wouldn't be that much of an issue if we had other planets colonized.

 

We don't need MOST of our military, not really.

Good people all, but most being terribly wasted. Our military should be explorers and builders first and soldiers only secondarily

 

The US and other nations need to work on finding more efficient, and much faster (like millions of miles an hour) means of space travel more than they need to put a base on the moon. Rocket fuel is not going to get us to other planets very quickly. A trip to Mars will take two years and is a one way trip. We are hardly capable of serious space travel.

On the other hand, if we want to pay for space travel to the moon to look for resources, that is another story. But the story will go like this: The public pays for the research and development of moon exploration techniques, and then those techniques will be handed over to international corporations who will profit off of publically funded research and development, and will profit off selling the publically funded information to other countries. That has been going on for years.

 

Well that is very Star Trekian in it's Nature and that would be great but we simply are not at that level yet.

The U.S. Military is used in many natural disasters all over the world and I think some people tend to forget that.

AboveAlpha

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Run a search on NASA's current Warp Drive Program....and NO...I am not joking.

AboveAlpha

 

I suppose having a science base with an array of telescopes on the 'dark side' of the moon might be of some use, but a military base wouldn't be of much use. Guided satellites are much better, and can be placed to provide 24/7 coverage, and much cheaper and more flexible.

 

Remember there really is no permanently Dark Side of the Moon however we on Earth only see one side as the Lunar Orbit around the Earth is exactly equal in time to the Lunar Day.

Thus one side of the Moon is always facing the Earth but the other side of the moon does get sunlight as well.

Your right in that there really is no reason to use the Moon as a Military base and Orbital Based Platforms would do a batter job then a permanently existing Military Base on the Moon.

Such platforms are against the Space Weapons Ban Treaty.

AboveAlpha

 

I didn't forget; that's why I put those quote thingies around 'dark side'.

 

We also don't need to go to the moon to build large spacecraft; they can be built in space without all the bother, and save a lot of fuel as well.