Should we allow Russia to decide who is elected president as the right wants?

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  1. RodB

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    I'm late to this party and maybe duplicative, but can you name one right winger or conservative who wants Russia to pick our president, or are you just reading out of the La La Land Democrat playbook of yarns?
     
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    No you dont.

    Tell me why we elected him?
     
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    What a pile of ****. The fantasy land of the paranoid right. Your party exist for one reason and one reason alone. To transfer every dime of new wealth from the richest country in the world to the minute few at the top. Something You have been able to accomplish for 35 years. Military,, what a laugh, the US and its Allies spend 3 out of every 4 dollars spent on the military in the world. . You are that easily controlled that any line of bullshit from People like Small Hands , who couldn't recognize the truth if it was tattooed on his forehead is excepted as facts. Puppets like you are the down fall of this country. Hate sold you a hate candidate and you bought the lies, now you are the hate party. You and you puppet masters have to go. We need a strong America not a weak ass idea of strengths that the minute minds of your party perceive as strength. Bigger Military what a pile.. This proves a premise that I've had for years. No time in history has so many been controlled and they have excepted ideas that are totally against their best interest. I'll add that a prerequisite to be in the hate party is paranoia. You fit.
     
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    Small Hands thats who and Russia did help to get this bozo in power and the hate party, to keep that power will let it happen, they will just look the other way and say it never happened. The right live and dies on lies , especially now. They got a leader of their party that is the ultimate liar. Every time he opens his mouth he lies. The weak minds that bought this crap is the danger to this country, in fact the biggest danger to this country. All good right wingers are conservative, conservatives are fanatical capitalist, capitalism comes before their country. The hate party would sell out this country for a profit. and let Russia take control in degrees and look the other way if it filled their coffers.
     
  5. robini123

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    Source citation needed for the claim that Russia selected our president.
     
  6. jbander

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    because The right wing has been preaching hate for decades , and the ultimate hate candidate steps up and the trained seals increase their support by the increase of sleaze ,lies and hate that comes out of this mental case. The uglier he was the more support he got. You elected a monster because there was way more haters in this country then even your party knew. If you remember your hate party went ballistic when their troll candidates were getting hammered by this sleaze bag. Many of them knew what a pile of **** your man is. They still do. they are bad all of them but Your orange monster is worse. Way worse. He is scum.
     
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    Stick it in your ear. The investigation by multiple letter agencies will either find the truth or not. but even if it is not it is only because he got away with it. He would sell out this country in a heart beat for cash under the table . Your man is slime buddy.
     
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    There's a lot of hate on both sides, for example, the left preaches hate for wealthy people.

    Try again, in a serious way. Think about why we elected him. If you can't, you'll never beat us.
     
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    Making a positive claim based upon negative evidence is illogical by my measure of logic.

    My man? Who do you perceive my man to be?
     
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    Wow....., Written like a true dyed in the wool Progressive Socialist Marxist. Almost verbatim from the CPUSA.org talking points.
     
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    Find me one time when Trump said that he wanted Russians to pick the president.
    And while you are on that wild goose chase maybe you can answer my question that no one in nine months and five posts on two blogs can't: tell me one bona fide perjurious lie that Trump has said in the past two years.
     
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    Why who hates rich people. There democrats like me, if they belong to the hate party, then I don't like them but it has nothing to do with the money they have. There are tax laws that I'm 100% apposed to that are made to transfer wealth to these people but but the wealth itself doesn't hurt me, Only the part that they don't earn or deserve. I don't have to think again about why you elected this clown, I know exactly why you elected this mentally Ill pile of ****.
     
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    Are you nuts, your trying to say this mental case doesn't lie. There isn't a word that comes out of his mouth that isn't a lie.
     
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    You don't have a clue what Socialism or Communism or Marxism is. and I'll prove it, Go to any Encyclopedia get the main tenants of anyone of these and tell me with those tenants why I , my party or my president or my country is anyone of these. You will either disappear , come back lying and trying to fake it. Or think you will just continue on with your bullshit. By the way bring the source.
     
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    I don't do that anymore , no one admits to voting for this slug anymore and no one even admits to being a Hate party member anymore. Come on now thats how your party got its new name the hate party, you voted in a hate candidate. You have to be blind stupid to think this ******** wasn't involved with Russia. They tried to get this slime ball elected, we have proof of that, it was Directly from Putin we are 90% sure of that. And almost everyone of Small hands people has met Russian spies or Russian intelligence agents. Or Putin's right hand men. Multiple times all of them out of the public eye. He is slime , he is your slime. And he loves those Russian and their leader. Great guy. We know why he loves them.
     
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    There are tons of proof that Russia worked hard to get your slime ball elected. I, nor anyone else said they elected him. I'm saying that if they weren't involved he wouldn't have won , that is my opinion.. I don't have to prove anything. The only thing that is at issue is that another country, our supposed enemy by every word from the right until now. played a part and even 1 person voting the direction they wanted. If I was our countries enemy I would want a slug like Small Hands to be put into office.
     
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    You tell me where I said Russia elected small hands. If Russia even attempted to get this slug into office and only one vote was changed because of that, You allowing it by insisting on looking the other way , makes you complicit. I would say it was millions of votes that were effected.
     
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    Ummm.....were you born after occupy wall street?
     
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    Thus your bias is revealed. I am an independent and did not vote for Trump. In fact I think that Trump is a vile piece of ****. Do not allow your bias to make enemies of allies. Just because I have seen no irrefutable proof that Russia decided our election does not mean that I support Trump. Yet just because I hate Trump does not mean that I must abandon my objectivity. You will not change any minds with such a hostile attitude.

    Ad hominem. If you cannot be civil then you will be blocked, if you have the capacity of civility then I look forward to your rebuttal.

    As for Russia interference in the election, yes it did happen, but that does not prove that Clinton lost because of that. If you want to argue for a fact that Russian involvement decided the election, then you need to back that claim with objective source citation.

    I am seeking irrefutable proof in support of an objective fact as opposed to an unsourced claim of 90%.

    Is that illegal?
     
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    Your angry. OK I get that but have you done any research into who actually funds the left? Controlled our government for the last 8 years? causing real harm to untold millions of people globally? Attempting to force down the throats of America and the world their globalist view?

    I'm not saying the right is any better. I havnt seen such a incompetent, divided bunch of nincompoops in Congress well ever. Completely ineffectual.

    But surely your not so naive to be the progressive poster boy tossing out the whole THE right is only interested in the 1% when the left does it too and you guys eat.. It up.

    It's really just a question of choosing your poison. Neither taste good sir but I will go with a more nationalist view maybe resulting in some benefit of us our people at home versus well a very nice, naive man named Obama thinking he can make the world Sesame Street.
     
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    Implied in your OP and title of OP.

    "Should we allow Russia to decide who is elected president as the right wants"

    "Th right will except Russia selecting who our president will be, as long as it is one of theirs"


    So are you arguing that Russia selected our president or not? If you are then I will need some source citation.
     
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    Conservatives claim that the Left claims Trump and Putin are in bed together. It is an old trick conceived by the Trump White House and used by sympathetic Trump pundits. They make up an obviously false statement, then attribute it to the Left. They then attack the statement they made up for the Left. It is a foolish tactic, but, then again, we are talking about the Trump White House, the same group that came up with the Nunes follies that made everyone look stupid, including members of the House.

    The Left argues Putin got his man in the White House, a weak, indecisive, inexperienced, and narcissistic President. Trump refuses to listen to his advisors and he is impulsive.

    He was in a hurry to threaten North Korea's Kim. So, before consulting with Mattis, Pentagon's boss, he misplaces the location and course of a carrier strike group on the 12th, making him the laughing stock of the world's media from Australia to Liechtenstein.

    Congress comes back from its Easter break on Tuesday. It immediately faces a crisis, a potential government shutdown at the close of business Friday. Trump is concerned about his first 100 days he ballyhooed during the election campaign, and as President-elect. With no signed significant legislation, failure of Trumpcare and his Muslim travel bans, the 100 days are not looking good. There is a reason for his concern as those first 100 days end Saturday.

    So, what does Trump do? He shoves Trumpcare and tax reform onto the already beleaguered Congress. In addition, next week, he wants deals to be made on the taxpayer funded wall and Trumpcare before Congress passes a continuing resolution. In other words, unless he changes his mind, which he does all too often, Trump may be responsible for the shutdown of the federal government.

    Or Congress can just ignore him, a very likely possibility. They are still angered at the little stunt Trump pulled with the Nunes affair. He somehow managed to make everyone look stupid with that one. House Speaker Paul Ryan told GOP members on a conference call Saturday that Republicans will only bring health care legislation to the floor when and if it has the votes to pass, saying the House will instead focus next week on approving spending legislation to avoid a government shutdown, according to a GOP source on the call.

    It is safe to say some Republican lawmakers are cursing under their breaths.

    Putin got exactly what he wanted. Not a stooge. Just an incompetent President, and Trump proves his worth to Putin nearly every day.
     

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