Should we increase our intake of refugees?

Not unless they meet the definition of refugee seeking asylum. Clearly most are not.

 

Regional communities praise migrant workers for keeping schools and shops open, amid calls for more arrivals
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Expanding Australia's permanent migration program would help regional communities tackle the plight of plummeting populations, according to a new report from a regional think tank.
The Regional Australia Institute has released a policy paper calling for a new federation approach to meeting the labour needs of communities outside the major cities."""
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-22/migrant-workers-needed-to-stop-population-decline/9784458

 

Are they? I can't see the government sending us fresh blood, no wonder with such a low intake. Stop the boats springs to my mind.
Another option would be to develop a different taxation system, people living/working the land have to pay less taxes. It would be more than fair, considering higher fuel and groceries prices.
But I can't see it happening under the current mob, and if forced to say, Labor won't be much better in that respect....
Have a great start for 2019,
Cats

 

That's the way I see it as well, because if nothing changes, rural Australia will die.....
All the best for 2019,
Cats

 

Happy New Year to all.

 

Australia's direct involvement in the destabilisation of the Middle East suggests that it should. It damn well should. But you know, acting ethically, being accountable... it's just tooooo hard for politicians to make the public understand.

 

Ethics is a bit difficult. All those parliamentarians who accidentally diddled the govt by claiming travel expenses they weren't allowed, Bronwyn and the helicopter. Long list of slow learners.

 

Saying "ethics" and "politicians" in the same sentence would have to make anyone puke, would it not.....

 

We're talking about lives here not how much petty cash pollies went over. Moron.

 

Beg your pardon? Ethics is ethics.

 

Seriously, you're a moron if you can't differentiate between the two.

 

Mate, I think you should grab that fork from your avatar and shove it up your arse....

 

I thought there were many other subjects the Greens Zionists wanted to hammer the world with that you wouldn’t need to bring out the old and constant rehashed BS to attempt to garner support.


BUT on we go, YES. Immigration needs to be reduced… Not just should… If you are going to keep bringing influxes of people to the nation, if you’re going to sit and select who immigrates to the nation based entirely on when they turn up and how, If your going to support immigration of any nature. YOU need to support building the infrastructure, the programs and economy to support such policies.

What is important to note is the fact, infrastructure has not kept pace with growth of population. Forget the ideals of deciding who comes to the nation and what constitutes a refugee fleeing oppression and who simply want to move to a place that will provide lifestyle for the rest of their life. Even without immigration these current politicians are too busy trying to buy YOUR vote to actually keep up with good policy.

Welfare, Schools, healthcare, transport and jobs just to name a few areas that need addressing. As we sit today, The failure of governments past to address these areas have made the problem that today it will take years to catch up 22 years of negligence in kowtowing to the Greens and do good pretenders who want to try use this subject as some sort of cat call to claim humanity or hide their racist atonements.

Now I know YOU in particular want to try push the old Green\ALP coalition as the only foresighted parties in the Australian political scene. BUT if you live in a single policy line without any idea of impact on all policy and credibility to address areas that are necessary to be able to accept the policy you want, how can you suggest a party that thinks like you are the best for Australia???

SO yes, it is irresponsible to continue to increase intake, pushing them to areas without reasonable equal opportunities or amenities just to appease your own sense of what makes you sound like a good person. So, until you address the issues needed then you have to reduce it.

 

I think youve quoted the wrong post. I dont support any party, coalition, labor and please dont associate me with the Greens..I am suggesting the intake needs reducing, not increasing?

 

Oh I am so sorry, you are right about quoting the wrong person. I am not sure how that occurred but I have changed it now.



Since I do agree I did wrong, I am sure you would accept by sincere apology for any suggestion of support of party or ideal of party.



I agree that intake needs reduction, at least we are on the same page there...

 

No probs...just say 10 hail marys...

 

I thought the story looked fake.

 

Garry like I know him, always on the constant attack towards me (green Zionist), yo can't help yourself, can you?
Once you travel country WA (and that is the subject) you will realize that your concern of non existing infrastructure is just another argument from people, who don't know, people who haven't discovered it for themselves.
Our school still has the capacity for more kids, our smalish hospital as well, our roads these days don't see a lot of trafic. Families with younger children have become rare, which also means that it becomes harder to maintain a healthy community.
I don't want to see our town die, and if that can be fixed by refugees or migrants moving out here, I am all in favor.
Whether other changes to the system (different taxation for rural Australia) might remain wishful thinking, an empty town is bitter reality.
Reg.

 

Well this comment shows why.

So, you talk for the nation on infrastructure??? So how about we send the 100,000 people to your town??? Do you think your schools could handle them. How about your hospital. Forget the traffic, where would they want to go???

Clearly, you don’t have a clue on this subject, you just pretend you know everything about your own personal community and that projects around the world.

Anyway, Since you believe there is no issue with infrastructure, schools, health and jobs I am guessing you have nothing to complain about with the Coalition. I am guessing your complaint on this current government is simply, you don’t like their appearance. After all, there is no issues to complain about…

 

This is a common problem in regional Australia. Small towns are dying. Schools and hospitals apart from providing services to a community, also provide employment. If the infrastructure is already in a community, it is a good thing if population can be attracted to the area.

 

Completely different topic, BUT I do agree. The problem is that already there is a 2year work in country before permanent residency. The day that expires they run back to the cities.


The largest problem is jobs. While government continues to close departments and let people go. While they continue to contract large corporate entities instead of local workers. You will have no change. Either way, you cannot expect to send people out to places and expect the jobs to appear. The systems to house treat and educate these people will not take a week or two… it all takes time.

On another irrelevant point, I was little gobsmacked that Shorten has announce an increase in sponsored immigration from 1000 to 5000… Why in hell is there a cap? Just because somebody vouches for them does not mean we have to accept them. But should they fit the criteria and are clearly wanted why cap the intake??? That is either just a stupid BS policy if the ALP or Australia seriously needs to examine itself.

 

Yes, local government has to be more proactive. In my small country town, the baker was going to close shop because he couldn't compete with the supermarket which produced cheap bread. The council has leased the bakery and employed him to bake. Local kids do work experience there.
Once again, there is decent bread being produced, kids have work experience for their CVs and a local business is kept open.
A few more people with "outside the box thinking" are required so that small towns can survive.

 

So true but the business has to be sustainable. Which includes more than just local government. Import 1000 people into your town and consider what they are going to do. If the local health system can handle the influx maybe the school can provide the education needed for foreign people whose native language in not English.

We need to take a look at ourselves and start supporting our local business. Stop lining up to major stores and looking at where the products we buy come from.

Sh*t, I have started looking at products we buy to feed ourselves with. Bacon, try buying Australian bacon in the supermarkets. I was absolutely gobsmacked that if you look the stuff behind the counter at Coles is 22% Australian. No wrapping, nothing but the bacon. Just what is the 22% part of the pork belly strip is Australian??? The dirt it was on??? Australia has a pork industry in just as big a crisis as the milk industry and Coles, owned by west farmers provides NO Australian bacon at all. Rural pork industries going to the wall…


If we are not going to buy Australian, we cannot expect to save our rural sector.

 

No argument from me. It requires careful searching to find Australian stuff.
Bottom line rules usually- Aldi is cheaper.

 

Lot's of open land. Why not give it to the refugees, along with some shovels, etc..