Should We Take Care of the Poor?

Well, I know that you have never applied for a zoning variance in an area of a county where there is no neighborhood association. I also know you never got a Real Estate license, or ever read any zoning laws. Admit it.

 

The best way to cure the bulk of poverty is to have a constitutional republic with an open and free capitalistic market economy that would grow and create more and more good jobs -- much like what happened during the industrial revolution.

There will still be poverty, some of which private charities and churches can alleviate as they have done for thousands of years. The rest require direct government support -- preferably local, secondly, state, and finally, if need be, federal.

 

yep getting a zoning variance is a pain in the butt, but that has nothing to do with the banks and it's a pain in the butt whether your town is rum by dems or reps both of whom are more concerned with maximizing property tax revenue than keeping individuals happy.

 

Exactly. I was a Millionaire in Romania. I used to walk around the local markets with 1 Million Lei in my pockets. 1 Million Lei was about $310 US Dollars.

 

That is one way Gingrich and Kaisch reformed welfare back in the late 1990's. They tightened work requirements and length of time and guess what.....people went out and got jobs. I remember news stories where reporters went out and interviewed such former welfare recipients and how they actually praised the reform for forcing them to get off the dole and become productive citizens.

 

You can be a millionaire in cambodia for less than 250 usd. They have an interesting dual currency system there that treats cambodian riel as change, so nobody keeps coins. You have your USD on one side of your wallet, and your riel on the other side.

 

The Democrats figured out long ago that the poor are a very useful class of people for them, that's for sure. Their votes are equal in value to every other vote, and all they have to do to get those votes is promise them free stuff at the expense of evil rich people.

 

Same with racism, they need the racism canard else the would be wiped out tomorrow they would never get reelected.

 

Since your assessment of that is completely and hopelessly wrong, you don't get to decide that.

 

Help the poor of other lands - through education and material assistance - developed a varied infrastructure so their one-crop economies can survive in times of drought, famine, etc. Don't just back some minority there in a one-crop economy. Help the masses, our fellow earthlings, don't just exploit the, like the poor here are exploited. When technology throws a bunch of people out of work develop paid retraining for them into some viable pursuit, don't just dump them on the street. That would be true leadership. Who do you think we should help? Trump and his cronies of the one-percent? They need laws to regulate them, they need to be forced to share the profits, they need to learn to respect their fellow citizens, not just use them. Jeez.

 

What's stopping you from taking care of the poor?

 

I realize liberals don't understand how it works but then they get fired. As for the other blather? Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). How much competence is required to do the work that we pay foreign nationals to do because we pay U.S. citizens to not work. I did lawn work as a second job. Not a lot of competence required. I unloaded furniture trucks. No a lot of skill required. I counted cartons shooting off the glue-lap machine. As long as you could count to twelve you were gold. Oh, wait. You also had to show up.

But, but, what are we going to do for the poor people who really don't want to work? Maybe they can see a role model in Barack Obama.

 

Which, bottom line, is that Joe Taxpayer subsidises ruthlessly exploitative employers who can pay slave wages AND pays welfare to indigenous workers who can't afford to work for slave wages. The economics of the bloody madhouse!

 

I never mentioned banks, go back and check, I was referring to the Republicans of R. M. Renfield stripe, those inhuman monsters who serve up the poor to the vampire je-usurers:

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=493035&p=1067037846#post1067037846

When the poor must rent and pay the je-usurer’s mortgage, so the je-usurers do not have to toil or spin, or the poor must become a debt slave for a larger house than they need, it is to subsidize rich Republican house values, rich Republican contractors, and free up loans to small business (on the backs of slaves).

My first contractor died during construction, he had tried to get a permit for a neighborhood that would include smaller houses, but he was turned down. The county had a 6% black population at the time, and that was how they maintained that, being the county south of John Lewis district. That contractor was intrigued about my desire to build a house for $30,000 based upon something Reagan said with regard to New York paying that much for rent for a homeless couple, he said, “they should have just bought them a house.” I built it for under $30,000, for 1140 square feet, after I was denied a variance to build 800 square feet. If I could have built what I wanted it would have been about the cost of a small car loan.

The Republicans are blood sucking Evil monsters. If you require the poor to pay more for the privilege to live debt free where others get to live, and deny them the pursuit of happiness, you owe those reparations and redistribution of income from rich Republicans…to the poor.

 

Not a bad idea, but unless the work is really needed it amounts to a kind of welfare anyway.

That said, its a form of welfare that I wish we'd held onto. Jobs are also roles, (or actually anything one does to survive creates a social role), and being productive in any way seems a healthier role than that of a beggar/criminal.

Everyone isn't incredibly smart or strong or inventive, some people are just average, and some are even below average. The ones that fall below the 'exceptional' line may not be absolutely necessary as workers anymore, which leaves a lot of people out of fulfilling work. If we don't start to ascribe some value to baseline workers our society may lose its moral foundation.

 

Again sir zoning laws are a progressive creation and introduced into this country by progressives. They now infest every city in the land, and whether that city is controlled by Republicans or Democrats it operates in exactly the same fashion, to maximize city revenue. This is mandated another progressive called the unfunded federal mandate.

 

Should we take care of the poor?

Does that mean upgrading their i-phone 6 to an I-phone 7? Or their TV from 55" to 70"?

 

Republicans.

 

Hiw do Republicans stop YOU and why do you let them?

 

Hitler are the best of those.

 

No. You are perfectly free to help the poor. Do you have the sads that rather than helping the poor, you are frustrated in your attempts to force other people to "help the poor" by forcible extracting money from others and steering them toward corrupt Leftwing boondoggles stocked by Leftwing bobble heads?

This virtue signalling by the left these days on these subjects like "sads for the poor!" are quite comical.

I was just reading about this:

The second culture, which is the new Cult promoted by the Adult Babies and is Dionysian in descent, maintains that performative, operatic displays of emotion indicate "authenticity" -- if your emotion is so vehement that you cannot suppress it, your feelings is therefore more "real."

And your feelings are facts, and #Science. The evidence you present that your feelings are true is your unhinged emotional incontinence.

Note this is true even if your "emotional" display is actually exaggerated and theatrical, or outright feigned -- you still get credit for signalling you're part of the garment-shredding tribe.

In this view, the ability to dampen emotion to think coolly and without tantrums and baby-seethings is actually a mark of inauthenticity, and therefore pretense and deception, as the man who is not freaking out like a sugar-rushed child is suppressing one's true Inner Adult Baby nature and therefore not being true to one's true essential nature as a raving lunatic.

In this regime, where emotion and shrieking are not signs that one is departing from truth but on top of it and inside it and grabbing it by the hips, spazzing out and freaking out are positively valorized, and people, being competitive and seeking to be "the best" in a field, attempt to top each other with even more amped-up displays of frantic fear and fury.

The media is of course very much the cultural ringleaders of the infantile culture. They don't seem to appreciate that many in society are still Apollonian traditionalists, who do not view their daily freakouts as a sign that they are possessed of the truth, but instead take this as evidence that they have psychological problems and developmental disorders.

Yet they continue pushing forward with the theory that because they are gibbering and wailing like lunatics, you should put more trust in their howlings, not less.

http://ace.mu.nu/#368101

 

Do you think I'm raging behind the keyboard or something? And you're totally right. "Sads for the poor" is a hilarious phrase.

 

I'm not much for useless virtue signalling. True works of charity are precious and the opportunities are boundless. Go Forth And Do Good!

I bet you are going to discover you are especially good at it!

 

That drives wages down not up

 

Sorry no it works both ways limit the labor supply and wages go up as there becomes more .demand for labor.Baseball player make the money they do almost entirely because that skill set is rare in the human population ditto CEO.