Should Women Who NEVER Want Children Remain Abstinent Forever?

What if she is absolutely awesome though?

 

we do not live in a theocracy, the bible says a lot of bad things


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

 

Um, this thread is already 15 pages long, so I'm sure it's been stated more than once, but if a woman is sure she absolutely never wants to have children, why not get her tubes tied???

Certainly that has got to be better than abortion.

Unless she's just expecting to get 5 or 6 (or even more) abortions on the off chance that maybe, just maybe, in her late 40s she thinks there is a small possibility she might change her mind and want to have a baby. Probably only one baby, I would guess, for a woman who was so sure she didn't want them.

And that seems pretty awful. All those abortions just based on the small chance she might want to have a baby later?
And she very much risks a late-term abortion, because those pregnancies can't always be caught early.

 

And at the time, Margaret Sanger didn't dare come out and say that abortion might be a good form of birth control.

Come now, we all now PP is not really about birth control. Birth control might only be a little side condiment. Abortion makes up their "steak & potatoes" on the plate.

 

FreshAir, I have to accuse you of disingenuity. I think that segment was already explained to you in another thread.

The man has to marry her, she does not have to marry the man.

You can go back and read my discussion with you about that here, towards the bottom of page 2:
God demands nothing and life is not a fight | Page 2 | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics

You seem to be misrepresenting what it means.

 

there is no defending that verse, I am sure that has been explained to you in anouther thread

 

The problem is, you have never started a thread about that issue. You have only kept bringing that up over and over again to derail other people's threads.

 

anytime someone brings the bible up to take away others rights, yes, I will bring up the bible too

we are not a theocracy

if you don't want to get an abortion because of the bible, I support that 100%, I do not support using the bible to take away the choice from others

 

Further, why should all the burden and blame be on a woman? Shouldn't men also be expected to abstain if he does not want children at all?

 

Uh, Sanger is dead and has been for a long time and influences no one ....and SANGER HATED ABORTION...that is why she pushed BIRTH CONTROL.

OK, show proof ... and even if you were correct ( you aren't) SO WHAT!!!

Abortion is a legal medical procedure....it follows that PP has no reason to lie about it but Anti-Choicers with an agenda DO ...



BTW, as usual, you are off topic

 

No!!! Good Lord no!!! I'd never get lucky. I don't want any kids either and I've managed to avoid them all my life!

 

The problem is, you have never started a thread about that issue. You have only kept bringing that up over and over again to derail other people's threads.

 

Absolutely asinine premise.....

 

Are you suggesting that the government should set up a department of analysis of behavior to determine whether it matches a defined national minimum standard of behavior?

Are you suggesting that every female should be issued a number of permits for abortion that is all she may use throughout her life?

I'm really struggling to figure out what the heck you're saying here.

 

Why would a person who never wants bread, cookies, or cupcakes go in and out and in and out of a bakery over and over?

 

Women who don't want to have children are perfectly capable of enjoying sex... so why shouldn't they...?

 

If you understand cause and effect, the answer should be obvious.

 

I understand, very well, what female orgasm is... and, yes, it is obvious!

The ladies can have their fun, and pregnancy is optional....

 

No, pregnancy is not fully optional

EVERY form of birth control has a failure rate. Some forms required by specific religions are especially faulty.

Plus, there are the issues of rape and incest.

 

OK, what you say is, strictly speaking, correct. So, if after having her fun, Ms. America discovers she is 'preggers' and doesn't want to be, she can simply go and get the 'growth' removed, and all is as it was. Hint: anyone who tries to stop a woman's right to abortion in the United States in 2022 is deliberately committing political SUICIDE!

 

Nature disagrees with you.

 

Meh, yeah, but the laws of the United States do not disagree with me. Women in this country have the right to abortions, and no one with any political sense AT ALL would go against that. It would be, as I said, political SUICIDE.

. "I'll give you a good time and 'body fluids' -- but what you do with them is up to you!"

 

What standing/authority does "nature" have?


None.

 

Well, it doesn't, but it's a little bit of a weaker argument if it's unnatural.

I agree that his argument is not the strongest... but then neither is yours here, because it seems your argument is basically "An orgasm is more important than my baby".

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
What standing/authority does "nature" have?


None.

I feel you to be the authority here on "unnatural" but what you mean here is a mystery..

Uh, you can't make up someone else's position....do you think that is honest?

It may be the ONLY way YOU could win an argument ( by making up what others say) but I don't think it's honest..