Singularity: The Age of Abundance

Oh I forgot. You know more than experts like directer of google and scientists who are doing these experiments.

Even when it staring you straight in the face.. Can someone say denial?

Yes. We maped the neuron connection of a worm and placed it into a robot.

Scientists discover how to 'upload knowledge to your brain'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...over-how-to-download-knowledge-to-your-brain/

So we know we are able to upload the entire content of a brain. They mapped and uploaded the entire neuron network of a worms brain and uploaded it. Nueron connections dictate your actions, memory, though, everything.

Compared to a worm, we have a minimum of 100 trillion nueron connections. The fact that it possible with a worm using regular computers means that it will be possible with humans with a more powerful computer.

Can you use fact to argue against this finding? That we can upload a worms mind into a computer?

Yes, its a fact as it has been already done.

 

Still no supporting evidence or fact for your baseless belief? That's right. Its baseless after all

 

So please answer. What facet of science makes mind uploading impossible?

Nothing?

I can think of many things that are scientifically impossible. Most of them either violated the conservation of energy or momentum.

You see there are many established scientific laws that makes certain things possible and other not.

NOT 1 makes mind uploading impossible. If its not impossible, it probable. If its then supported by scientific research makes it possible.

Mind uploading is scientifically possible. And the research from-

Uploading dreams
Uploading thoughts
Uploading actions
Uploading knowledge
Uploading a mind

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All of these things HAVE BEEN DONE in scientific research. And its all relatively recent.

So I have all of these recent SCIENTIFIC experiments as my supporting argument of why mind uploading is possible.

The fact that SCIENTISTS mapped and uploaded the neuron network of a worm on to a robot makes it even more self evident

So the fact that many experts like the director of Google, one of the largest, if not the largest tech company on earth agrees with me.

Many other experts and scientists agree with me. As well as their on going research.

all provide supporting evidence for my argument. You have none


So will you use fact to argue against the scientific findings? Or will you continue to spout your baseless garbage?

 

So...you are not able to prove the robot thinks it's the worm, but you think I should prove it isn't? I'm not the one (and neither are those scientists if you read the article carefully) claiming that the worm's "mind" was uploaded to a robot.

Why don't you explain to me what exactly is my "baseless belief?"

 

...So according to you, a worm thinks that its a worm? It knows the human word like "worm" and self identifies itself as such? It has the self awareness to know what it is?

If a worm doesn't have the ability to think that its a worm, then why would a robot that has a worms mind?

Hahaha

Man, what an idiot.

A worm doesn't know its a worm in the first place.

Mr "does the worm think its a worm"

Hahaha

Thanks for the laugh.

Maybe worms have their own language too. Maybe they are debating on what to do with pesky humans who use them as bait.

After all, according to you, it has enough self awareness to self identify itself

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It behaves like any worm would without any prior programming and or human intervention.

Does that answer your dumb question ?

That mind uploading is impossible.

I wish you would give me sych straight answers to my questions like this instead of ducking and doging like some coward.

There is not 1 facet of science that says its impossible.

Thats why its baseless
And in fact many experts and current scientific research support my argument that it is possible.

We are able to upload various info to and from the brain. As we have done already.

And we can upload a worms mind on to a computer

If we can upload part of our brains functions (actions, knowledge,memories, etc) why can't we upload the entire content of our brain in the future? As we have done with the worm?

There is nothing g that says we can't. NOTHING.

Between this and the scientist whos research provide supporting evidence for my argument; and experts like the director of Google and others who flat out agree with me, I have more than enough to make an argument. At least more than you who offers nothing but a baseless opinion of it being impossible.

I have explained why it would be possible. As per the researchers and experts I cited.

Can you explain why it will be impossible? Please use fact and scientific research as supporting argument as I have.

I'm not holding my breath. I'm betting that you will avoid this all together, spewing some more baseless crap.

 

You still don't understand how science works if you think anyone has to prove something is impossible.

My original point, which you've helped me make successfully by your crazed posts, is that Transhumanism is a religion, not much different from Snake handling Christianity or Head chopping Islam. Every post you make where you demand proof that something is impossible because...science, makes my point. You don't grasp that of course because like most fanatics you can't see past your own fanaticism.

I do invite you to continue however. It makes an excellent object lesson.

 

This is the end result I expect, especially since quantum entanglement means we can remain in constant, instantaneous communication with everyone else if we so chose. We'll all be off in our own galaxies playing god and minding our own business. It might take a while to actually reach that point but it'll be the end result.

 

Coming from a person who doesn't believe in quantum computer and though that worms have the self awareness to determine themselves to be a worm.

"You don't know enough about science"

That's like hearing a retard saying that I'm not smart enough.

So you still jave no facts or supporting evidence that mind uploading is impossible.

So your arguments continue to be baseless

I have scientists, their experiments, and many experts supporting my point.

Not to mention that they have ALREADY uploaded a worms mind to a computer.

That right there PROVES that mind uploading is possible as it ALREADY HAS BEEN DONE.

You have nothing. You have not answered 1 single question I asked. You should be a politician or something.

 

That post was beautiful! Particularly this part:

"...and though that worms have the self awareness to determine themselves to be a worm." and then:

"Not to mention that they have ALREADY uploaded a worms mind to a computer. "

The gift that keeps on giving!

 

Having a mind =/= being self-aware. You really should learn what words/terms mean before using them.

 

Another Transhumanist? You guys are more fanatical than ISIS.

 

Not so much fanatical as accepting the inevitable, logical conclusion of technology and science. Also, how is pointing out that you don't know what things mean have to do with transhumanism?

 

There was nothing wrong with the words I used. They were deliberate. But science fiction is not the "inevitable, logical conclusion" of science. That's why what you believe is more like a religion than anything to do with "science." Speculation is fun, but you guys take speculation to the nth level..into an irrational belief system.

 

Sorta like Religion isn't it?

 

Your computer is a functioning, computing, communicating thing. Your computer is also oblivious to its existence. Your using 2 unrelated terms interchangeably and trying to change the topic after getting called out.

 

It's not "sorta" like religion; it is religion. That's the point I've been trying to make to these fanatics this entire thread.

 

What was the topic I've allegedly tried to change to? I've been on one topic this entire thread.

 

Not in response to me you haven't. I pointed out that having a mind and being self-aware weren't the same thing and your response was, "Another transhumanist." Calling you out for the misuse of terms and transhumanism are totally different topics, the attempted change in point was meant to distract from your ignorance. As was your last post...

 

They mean separate things but both make the same points in the context of this thread: that the robot neither has a mind nor is self aware. Now...if you want to argue that's not the case, I'm open to the argument, but I think the real goal here is to distract from the topic.

 

One dirty little secret not so far discussed here (I think, I didn't read all 12 pages) is sex.

What is going to happen to relationships when you can have an indistinguishable simulacrum of any woman you want at any time for virtually nothing?

My own feeling is it's going to be great for BOTH genders . Both men and women will profit greatly by being removed from the sex roles that have stultified our lives for countless millenia

 

I think that is probably a topic deserving of it's own thread, but I suspect the societal results of ...sexbots, will be bad.

 

You have a logic of a retard. Glad someone else called it out.

I'm still waiting for evidence to support your argument, which at this point, is still baseless

 

My argument is that you are worshiping a fantasy religion and calling it science. The evidence is your posts in this thread. I just need to keep responding to you and you replying with your silliness and my argument is made!

Easiest argument I've ever won by the way, you are basically providing my arguments for me.

 

You have not provided 1 shred of evidence. I have many scientists and experts, as well as their research supporting my argument.

Not to mention that WE HAVE ALREADY UPLOADED A WORMS MIND TO A COMPUTER.

you are clearly ignorant of this subject. I remember how you argued that quantum computers didn't exist. Even when I showed you a quantum computer, you still argued against it.

Sort of like you are doing now.

You are delusional to the point of being a retard. There is not 1 bit of scientific data supporting your baseless claim that mind uploading is impossible.

And if there is 1 shred of evidence please share it.

Otherwise shut the F up.

 

First of all, please stop calling me a retard. That's against the rules of the forum.

Second of all, I just want o highlight this:

"WE HAVE ALREADY UPLOADED A WORMS MIND TO A COMPUTER"

Really, you should make that your signature. Now tell me more about that worm. Is he in digital heaven now?