So what happens after a state kills representative democracy?

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  1. (original)late

    (original)late Banned

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    A MAGA guys is running for Guv in Penn.

    He was involved in plotting the Jan 6 insurrection, and he plans on making sure Penn delivers the election result he wants. What the voters want doesn't count.

    At that point, we are in the worst constitutional crisis since the Civil War.
     
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    So now the left believes in voter fraud?
    Its so hard to keep up with what the left believes these days
     
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    I didn't see 'voter fraud' mentioned in the OP. But I do see the potential for vote tampering with him. Afterall, he was part of the group who coordinated the slate of fake electors in 2020.
     
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    is this the exact kind of post that the "misinformation board" or ministry of truth would take action on? Time will tell. Your call to civil war is duly noted, and I believe a violation of forum rules.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    You do? How? Do tell...Do you still maintain that the democrats didn't illegally change mail in voting in PA in violation of standing PA law?
     
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    Yep, show us the convictions.
     
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    THIS is a post the "misinformation board" would delete. Accusing another poster of something they didn't say.
     
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    Be sure you word the question correctly they like to conflate absentee ballots and mass mail out ballots together and wrap you up in a liberal argument when they are totally different... 2000 mules was not showing a bunch of absentee ballots being shoved in the slots... mass mail out ballots made that possible.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's nothing that's factually incorrect about the OP. Your post on the other hand is another matter.

    U.S. House committee subpoenas Sen. Doug Mastriano as part of Jan. 6 investigation

    The House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol and efforts to overturn the 2020 election issued subpoenas for six more people Tuesday, including state Sen. Doug Mastriano, R-Franklin.

    Mastriano, an ally of former President Donald Trump and Pennsylvania GOP gubernatorial candidate, attended the “Save America” rally, the morning precursor to the deadly riot. He has denied engaging in violence, but the state senator appears to have been much closer to the Capitol than he initially claimed, according to video footage.

    In a statement, the U.S. House committee said Mastriano — who did not respond to a call seeking comment — was “part of a plan to arrange for an alternate slate of electors” and reportedly spoke with Trump about “post-election activities.” The panel cited a Nov. 28, 2020, tweet from Mastriano, who said he was advocating for the Republican-controlled Pennsylvania Legislature to appoint Electoral College delegates.

    https://www.penncapital-star.com/bl...oug-mastriano-as-part-of-jan-6-investigation/

    The problem being.......participation in, or support for, the insurrection is now a badge of honor in the POT. If Doug was involved in a plot to submit a fake slate of electors as part of the attempted coup, The Following says, "all the better, he's one of us."
     
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    But, he didn't call for a civil war. You made that all up by yourself. Are you going to apologize?
     
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    I wonder why he is not calling for an investigation of voter fraud --- oh, he won, so therefore the voting must have been legitimate. These guys are sooo transparent. How they can attract ANY voters is beyond my imagination. All those voters must be 24/7 fully immersed in the Fox News bubble.
     
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    Having actively supported Trump's efforts to defraud America voters and overthrow the government is a plus for POT candidates running for office.

    The Democratic-led House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol is expanding its probe into false electors tied to the 2020 election, issuing six new subpoenas, including to two Republicans currently running for statewide offices.

    The new wave of subpoena targets includes Kelli Ward, the chair of the Arizona Republican Party, in addition to two GOP political candidates in swing states. State Sen. Doug Mastriano is a candidate for Pennsylvania governor, and state Rep. Mark Finchem is running to be the next secretary of state in Arizona.

    The subpoenas issued Tuesday mark the panel's growing look into an effort to put forth false electors for former President Donald Trump as he sought to stay in office after losing the 2020 election. Last month, the committee issued a first wave of 14 subpoenas tied to the scheme.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/15/1080...ed-as-jan-6-panel-dives-into-fake-electors-sc
     
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    Well don’t worry we will just stonewall any investigation into election impropriety like the democrats did and then tell you to prove it. Then when you say you need an investigation to find proof we will say, “sorry we need proof before we do an investigation.”

    Payback sucks doesn’t it.
     
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    Courts take time, and standing. But the evidence is all there in the public record for you to acknowledge.
     
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    More like the worst mass hysteria since, well, forever. After more than a year the j6 committee STILL has done anything but throw subpoenas and any Republican with a heartbeat. ps
    Look, the people who actually caused and participated in the violence should be held to account, but this idiotic and desperate quest by Congressional Dems to find something to save their cratering election chances needs to stop. And I don't GAF that Cheney CALLS herself a Republican - she isn't. Her Trump psychosis erases any rational thought or sense of fairness. Same with Adam Whatshisname - her loyal stooge.

    This "MAGA" guy will probably do more to get the state back to a true representative democracy that the entire Democratic Party.
     
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    The poster suggests that this is the " At that point, we are in the worst constitutional crisis since the Civil War." Gosh, the implications. Pointing out someone made this comment in a post is only misinformation if the original poster intended that, no? And for the record, these are the kinds of hyperbolic partisan calls to arms y'all think are too veiled for the average folk to discern... Laughable.
     
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    So you would also ignore the illegal "covid' election rules implemented by democrats in PA against both their state laws, It does sort of invalidate your entire narrative here. You ignore what you want in favor of spreading yet more conspiracy theory to hide your support for the unconstitutional expansion of mail in ballots. Cheating is what democrats do when they can't actually win.
     
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    What do you expect the "worst constitutional crisis since the civil war"means then? Aren't these your little dog whistles we all hear you whining about?
     
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    Nope, as you guys have said about trump, show me the convictions.
     
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    You always know what leftist believe, what ever mutually contradictory crap they have to in order to obtain more power over every one else.
     
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    And we need to bring evidence and proof.... sworn affidavits by witnesses is usually excepted... and..
    like any video security, which is held and in possession of the states.
    and any questionable ballots , which is held and in possession of the states
     
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    It's not voter fraud, and we've been talking about the possibility for about 6 years.

    Howler monkeys at work.
     
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    Hmmm. How could this mean anything different

     
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    Illegal? Not sure what you're talking about.

    Pennsylvania Supreme Court sides with Democrats on absentee ballot deadline and drop boxes

    The Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Thursday extended the state’s absentee ballot deadline and approved of the use of mail-in ballot drop boxes, giving Democrats a win in the battleground state.

    The case, which was brought by the Pennsylvania Democratic Party, is similar to another one being litigated in federal court, which was put on pause while the state’s supreme court considered the matter. The federal case, essentially a reverse of the state case, was brought by President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign and the Republican National Committee.

    Battles over voting rules have taken on a heightened significance amid the Covid-19 pandemic, which has forced states to adjust to millions more voters casting ballots by mail.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/17/2020-election-pennsylvania-supreme-court-hands-democrats-a-win.html
     

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