So When Do REPUBS IMPEACH BIDEN?

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  1. Marcotic

    Marcotic Well-Known Member

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    Yes, an over simplification on my part - the Reps shifted the SCOTUS outside what I would consider impartial non-partisan , and since that majority happened through some pretty underhanded means (IMO) I consider it an act of repubs even if, nominally, they are not affiliated with any party. I'd say that judges that are on a list of approved candidates prepared by the Heritage Foundation can be seen as propped up by that organization, and though that's not republican per say, it does seem to have an inordinate amount of sway on Rep thinking on judges and so I lumped it in there.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/us/trump-appeals-court-judges.html

    As for the SL Forgiveness, its a pretty similar simplification, a special interest group (job creators network) propped up the plaintives and (IMO) judge shopped with a really weak argument until they found a judge that would be amenable to putting a stop to it. Since the judge was a Rep nominee and given reps seeming disregard to noming impartial judges calling this a republican judge is a fair take.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/11/10/1135940851/student-debt-relief-biden-blocked-texas-district-court

    As for it being Manchin or the reps fault something couldn't get done legislatively, I suppose it'd be both. Though 1 senator voting against party while the other party votes lock step would point me towards laying the blame on the reps feet.

    Ultimately, this is more analysis than *most* people would be willing to do, and so whether it be an accurate simplification or not people will likely shorthand it into reps working hard to keep the middle class down.

    What can be said, with some certainty is that as the number of Reps go down, the likelihood of major educational course correction goes up, and as the US populace seems to be overwhelmingly in favor of higher Ed I don't see how this will help them, other then as red meat to their mostly HS educated base.
     
  2. Zorro

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    You're not arguing that I'm wrong, you're explaining why I'm right.
     
  3. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Funny-- I think this post of yours, proves that you don't understand the meaning of the word investigation."
     
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    But is it is not the money used based on a federal program. A Trump era program designed to help small businesses stay afloat and keep paying their people was grossly abused in many states. Ny for example spent almost none of the money to that end.
     
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    So, you're saying that Democrats should be allowed to do it but Republicans shouldn't?
     
  7. independentthinker

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    Unfair and biased is when you form a committee of nothing but anti-Trumpers and only try to find things that would hurt Trump while brushing aside anything and everything that would help Trump and then conduct the investigations in prime time just before elections for greatest political effect. Anything that would help Trump is squashed.
     
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  8. LangleyMan

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    You're arguing against having contingency plans for the possibility you may control the House? Looks as though you're not up to governing.
     
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  9. LangleyMan

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    "Allowed" has nothing to do with it.

    Go ahead, investigate away. We'll throw your butt out next.
     
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    Impeaching Biden will not accomplish a thing. We then get Kamala. He should however be exposed for his use of the office. Now impeaching Merrick Garland, that is a whole 'nother issue. We should do it, and do it right away!
     
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    Impeaching Biden would be a snap, though we shouldn't do it. There is no "Steele Dossier" or other made up partisan crap. There are many many whistleblowers, taped conversations, and soon to be released, bank statements that explains his decisions and behaviors. He is compromised. All we need to do is expose it and hamstring him!
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    You'd have more credibility if you hadn't appointed jerks like Jim Jordan to the committee whose only intention would have been to disrupt the proceedings.
     
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    I never said or thought any such thing. I never said the Republicans were necessarily saying or doing rational stuff. I said if they were talking about impeaching Biden, that was a pipe dream constitutionally. If they are following the bar set by Pelosi, could very well be..
     
  14. Lee Atwater

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    Constitutionally speaking, a prez can be impeached for just about anything if there are the votes. As you know, Pelosi resisted calls to impeach Trump for lesser things until she could no longer ignore the revelation of his attempted extortion of Zelensky.

    GAO: Trump Administration Violated the Law by Withholding Ukraine Aid
    https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2...-violated-law-withholding-ukraine-aid/162485/
     
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    No, you'll get nothing because Biden won't be removed.
    No one is stopping you from making your case.
    Why don't you do something constructive instead?
     
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    I never said the Republicans never do anything stupid. I never said that because they often act stupidly. I said they would never stop social security or medicare. I know that the same way I know horses don't climb trees, and Republicans are not always stupid, just often. Roe v. Wade? Millions of people and politicians have been clamoring for decades for that SCOTUS ruling to be vacated. Nothing stupid about that either.
     
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    It's not like herding cats, but more like turning your mild reticent dog into a junk yard guard dog.
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Oh right, and no one has EVER been against Social Security

    You're probably right though, Republicans probably won't ever cancel Social Security. They'll just kill everyone who isn't rich at any age.
     
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    This BS is getting tiresome.
     
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    Constitutionally he cannot. He can be impeached only for treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors, and misdemeanors and crimes meant the same thing back then and high refers only to something extreme and egregious. The framers talked about a major egregious complete violation of the public trust. The rub is the House can claim whatever their reason is that it's constitutional and who is going to stop them.
     
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    But rulings of the Court are supposed to be made based on the Constitution. Alito and Co. made a politically based determination.

     
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    How do you think you should be taken seriously when you say silly things?
     
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    Constitutionally he can. As we know a prez can be impeached for an abuse of power. Such abuses are in the eye of the beholder.

     
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    You mean like when he disrupted both impeachment scams by getting their hearsay witnesses to admit they were nothing but hearsay witnesses?
    Or calling out the impeachment scams for refusing to call witnesses?
    Or calling out Democrats for holding secret depositions?
    Lefties call that disruption. They just hate it when they get exposed for who they really are.
    And they knew Jorden would want to call the actual key witnesses they never called in their fake Jan 6 committee
     
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    Not sure about your metaphor, but we need someone to step up with answers. I think the political middle are increasingly fed up with the attack dog politics of distraction.
     

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