So, you say you are a born again, evangelical Christian

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  1. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen an answer to my question which is: How can you hold these Christian values and at the same time support this vile, immoral, corrupt person. My intent was not to start the typical Tumper/anti-Trumper flame fest. I really want to know how you can morally hold these two things in your head at the same time. There is a cognitive dissonance that is alarming to me mostly because it is apparently so wide spread.
     
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    Do you think Christians should vote or be politically active?
     
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    Since its not murder, next.
     
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    Probably they don't consider him a vile, immoral, corrupt person. I don't either. I just view him as a man who is bad at politics and saddled with a bad personality. And I'm not even religious.
     
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    How do those of the so called Christian right rationalize their love of guns which result in at least 100 lives lost every day and another 200 wounded with the commandment Thou shalt not kill??? We live in a perpetual war zone.
     
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    Your opinion.

    And wrong.
     
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    To the overwhelming majority of Americans, guns are merely toys. Not for actual killing (even for hunting). Sure most Americans try to play up justification for guns for "self defense", "protecting freedom" and "holding government accountable" but those are just noble sounding excuses. In the end it is simply people loving things that make big noise and spit fire.
     
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    Not a new phenomenon it has been going on all of my life, we are the only country in the world obsessed with guns that I am aware of.
     
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    Americans are not as obsessed with guns as you think. IIRC there are actually fewer gun owners in the U.S. than there used to be. But the average gun owners possess more weapons individually so the raw numbers of firearms in the U.S. rises.
     
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    We have more LEGAL registered guns than we have total people.
     
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    That doesn't change the point I made though
     
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    Hello 911, I need to report a Cranial Spanking!

    So sick and f-ing tired of the race-baiting. So sick of the near infinite shilling of identical, scripted talking points here, MSM and elsewhere. True Hive Mind. Once Orangemanbad begins to wear thin in a few months, they'll be moving right back to racial grievance grifting and lie narratives about wealth. Watch.

    To the topic, Leftism is a religion, dogmatic threads and posts here towards punishment for heretics prove that irrefutably several times a day. Even the worst witch-hunters and inquisitors from history have nothing on today's collectivist Left. I'd rather handle snakes than be a LW Church Member today.
     
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    Of course I do. Whether or not they are or should be politically active was not my point.
     
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    How about RW church members? Not that this thread has anything to do with church members as such.
     
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    He is an adulterer, a sexual predator, he has suborned perjury, and ripped children from their parents, keeping them in conditions not unlike dogs in a kennel. Just what would he have to do for you to consider him vile, or immoral, or corrupt?
     
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    Another Christian hate post. How novel!
     
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    Well, I hear you, but see if you can answer this for me:
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1350275055834574848
     
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    Well, like I said, I hear you. But what I "hear" is RW talking points and bumper stickers, none of which come with the least bit of hard evidence.
     
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    Correct, but I think most of us are anti-Christian Nationalism that the evangelical church in particular has become.
     
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    Are you a vegetarian? Or do you support the killing of cattle and foul? How about an inflamed appendix? What "murder" do you actually oppose?
     
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    So would you oppose ALL abortions?
     
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    That definitely wins for best understatement of the year.
     
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    Ummm ....... WOW! Can you actually support that? I really believe(d) that wasn't true.
     
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    Yeah, it's apparently all about appearances. Superficial crap, ya know?
     

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