Solar Power Will Rule

Discussion in 'Science' started by monkeymonk, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. monkeymonk

    monkeymonk New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    "Solar Impulse is the first airplane capable of flying day and night without using any fuel. The plane is powered entirely by solar panels and batteries, and generates roughly the same amount of power as a small scooter, ..." - http://www.livescience.com/37979-solar-impulse-nyc-flight.html

    This stuff is really great! Solar power is making leaps and bounds thanks to grants going to universities to pioneer these renewable energies. Solar output capacity is doubling nearly every two years.

    http://www.livescience.com/4824-solar-power-rule-20-years-futurists.html

    I already use it for my daily commute... http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...e-practical-fuel-source-5.html#post1062831629
     
    Falena and (deleted member) like this.
  2. Angedras

    Angedras New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2011
    Messages:
    8,178
    Likes Received:
    168
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Good thread, MM!

    Keep up the good work.


    :thumbsup:
     
  3. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    28,370
    Likes Received:
    9,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If you think about it....everything we use as fuel is already a solar power system. Petroleum is simply a form of ancient sunlight, as is every fossil fuel everywhere. The only non-solar sources we use are based on radioactivity.
     
  4. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    23,299
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    and solar power is based on what? a huge freaking fusion reaction in space?
     
  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    28,370
    Likes Received:
    9,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ayup.....pretty cool we figured out how to use it without releasing millions of years of carbon.
     
  6. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    23,299
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    don't worry about the carbon. worry about the very nasty heavy metals in fossil fuels.
     
  7. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    28,370
    Likes Received:
    9,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    While I agree Mercury (amongst others) poses a true problem...I feel it pales in comparison of scale.
     
  8. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    23,299
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    for CO2 to affect the climate, it needs to hit 5%. at 3%, it's toxic to humans...and currently it's at about .03%...that's a long way to go.
     
  9. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    28,370
    Likes Received:
    9,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Most climate scientists do not agree with you, You state the pollutant qualities and lethality in concentrate, rather than the impact on climate.
     
  10. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    23,299
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    it just has no impact. there's more CO2 in the air than in 1998, yet there's no change in average temps. CO2 has nothing to do with the variations in the jet stream or ocean warming. the water is being heated from underneath.
     
  11. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    28,370
    Likes Received:
    9,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I suppose we must simply agree to disagree.
     
  12. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    23,299
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    that's ok.
     
  13. BillyGee

    BillyGee New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
  14. goober

    goober New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    6,057
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    0
  15. Mrlittlelawyer

    Mrlittlelawyer Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2011
    Messages:
    317
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    When we get an efficient or better alternative to our current mainstay of power, then I would be all to happy to use it. The problem is it must produce the same amount of power and be just as cheap.
     
  16. monkeymonk

    monkeymonk New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The Wright Bros started with less...

    When it comes to renewable energy... like solar... practically free is cheap as it gets. It really is based on the proper implementation and practical use... no... it is not going to push a 3,000lb SUV around... yet, ...that's simply not the point... as gasoline engines started out as low HP as well, those first engines wouldn't be capable of pushing today's vehicles either.
     
  17. Mrlittlelawyer

    Mrlittlelawyer Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2011
    Messages:
    317
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Huh, funny you should mention them, I recently visited the wright brothers memorial.

    I never said I wouldn't use Solar power simply that is needs a lot of work if it is ever going to become a mainstay I would be happy to use. For now, its better supplying partial amounts of power in my opinion. If other want to pursue a higher goal for it I would also be fine with that. All I ask is that I not be forced to use it or have the other forms of energy I use regulated to make them more expensive then they should be. I am not against it, in fact in many ways I am for it, I simply still prefer other methods to get my mainstay of power.
     
  18. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    26,347
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Most people who say that haven't considered all of the costs of petro-based energy. How much would petroleum cost if Exxon (for example) had to buy its own 6th Fleet to protect it on the high seas? How much would it cost if the drillers weren't being paid for depleted wells and fields.
     
    Falena and (deleted member) like this.
  19. monkeymonk

    monkeymonk New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Many times I've considered to go back into the car, mainly for safety reasons, as I am almost hit practically everyday. I have every right to use the road on my little electric trike as anyone driving a car, yet... I can be paralyzed and feel victimized by cars who buzz me at a high rate of speed. (buzzing - passing within the three feet of my left hand space, then looking in the review mirror to see how close they got) Passing me with on coming traffic, endangering their lives, the approaching vehicles, and mine for simply a few seconds of time. Left hand turns are often very tricky as I have to use eye contact and extend my arm to insure the vehicle behind me lets me garner the lane to turn left. It is very hard trying to be fiscally responsible and using out of the box resources to accomplish the same goals as those who use massive metal machines around me, with the guilt free aspects of mandatory insurance... I feel this pressure everyday... to get into a big metal box...
     
  20. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,501
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is a fallacy, because Co2 is not the only thing to affect climate. Other things affect it too, so even if the average temperature didn't change, maybe it would have changed were it not for Co2. So it would have cooled a bit, but didn't thanks to Co2.
     
  21. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    28,370
    Likes Received:
    9,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I see....economic impact is more important than human impact. Makes sense in a way, rich folks make enough money to possibly survive....everyone else are simply left on the wayside.

    Sorry, but I amongst the "everyone else".....and not in any way happy about it!
     
  22. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    23,299
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    unbiased reporting- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...ith-global-warming...-it-stopped-in-1998.html

    - - - Updated - - -

    http://ezinearticles.com/?Global-Warming-Ended-in-1998---Were-Headed-Into-an-Ice-Age&id=1905727
     
  23. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,501
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Again, I'm not talking about whether or not we are having warming or not. I am talking about whether or not Co2 has an impact on the climate. You didn't read what I was saying at all.

    Co2 is a factor among MANY which determine what actual direction the temperature takes. Just because it ALONE doesn't ensure warming doesn't mean that it doesn't play a part. Since there are other factors too, it might not have enough sway to determine the actual direction the climate takes.

    Let me put it like this:

    If a corporation has a major scandal and a lot of people boycot them, they might STILL post a profit that year nonetheless. That's not to say the scandal didn't have an impact on their profits. Maybe their profits should have been much higher. You wouldn't say, well they didn't post losses instead, therefore their profits weren't affected AT ALL by the scandal. Understand?
     
  24. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    23,299
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    methane is rising too....but still not enough.
     
  25. goober

    goober New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    6,057
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    0

Share This Page