someone should create an anti gun policing force that gets rented by cities/states

Of course you do. You have an irrational fear of firearms. Specifically “military arms”.

You have never been in any branch of the military.

I was wrong about none of the above. “Military style” weapons are not used in the vast majority of firearm related deaths. If you removed every single one of them, it would have no statistical effect on firearm related deaths.

 

Anything is easily obtained with enough money. The problem is, automatic weapons draw scrutiny from the feds enough to put yourself in jeopardy for very stiff fines and federal jail time.

Most career criminals know that the feds have substantial reward monies given out to prosecute federal arms violation. Common career criminals often know enough to stay waaaaaay away from full autos. All you need to do is research the number they are used......very infrequently.

Legal buyers and sellers can easily be involved in private sales that lead to guns getting into the hands of criminals. Because machine guns are all subject to regulation, no unregulated auto weapons sales can take place with a legal buyer or seller. Everyone commits a federal crime. Educate yourself.

 

Nope. The process to obtain a class 3 weapon is extremely easy. I have 2 of them.

 

And everyone ( if machine gun) is REGISTERED and required a background check with the correct paperwork.

 

Right. It’s an extremely easy process. Machine guns are statistically irrelevant to firearm related deaths.

 

Exactly.....because they are highly regulated and
“All transfers of ownership of registered NFA firearms mustbe done through the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (the "NFA registry"). The NFA also requires that the permanent transport of NFA firearms-across state lines by the owner must be reported to the Bureau of Alcohol, …”

 

So you agree that banning military style weapons will have no effect on firearm related deaths. Great.

No it doesn’t.

 

Except for the fact it is not merely a trite phase, but rather existing law. Heller and McDonald have prohibited a great many policies and deemed them to be unacceptable. Total prohibitions on entire classes of weapons that are used by the public for legal purposes, arbitrary and capricious standards of either the design of firearm-related restrictions, as well as their enforcement. There is simply no standard of scrutiny under which the proposals supported on the part of yourself does not qualify as either one or the other.

And yet it is not possible for yourself to actually demonstrate anything to the contrary.

 

What is not realized on the part of yourself, is that one of the few things keeping society in check is the publicly held illusion of the legal system and justice system actually having legitimacy in their existence and purposes. If that illusion is destroyed, then society breaks down and anarchy reigns supreme. And the fastest way to go about destroying that illusion, and revealing that these systems do not actually serve the people, would be to go about making the role of judge as just another low-skill, minimum wage position that can be held by anyone, especially those who are not even old enough to legally purchase or consume alcoholic beverages.

Under the system being proposed by yourself, the public would have no motivating reason to abide by the law, as it would be demonstrated the law holds neither legitimacy nor meaning. It would be an open invitation to widespread murder of anyone and everyone, including these hypothetical government agents being suggested on the part of yourself.

Then why has the state not actually attempted such an approach to firearms, if there is simply no chance of legal repercussions for their actions? They have obviously had more than enough time and opportunity to follow through, and yet they are refraining from such. Precisely why is that?

No such statement was made on the part of myself.

The drug cartels in the nation of Mexico are acquiring firearms and other weaponry that is neither produced, nor even available for sale, in the united states. And they are procuring such in far greater numbers than what is occasionally smuggled in from the united states by corrupt ATF agents who are looking to make their organization look legitimate.

And how will such serve to address the approximate one half billion of already existing firearms in private circulation? How will such serve to remove them from not only the equation, but also from existence?

And apples and cinder blocks are both produced in the united states. But such is not enough to make them substitution goods with one another.

The united states not following the example of other countries does not mean it does not take the matter of firearm-related violence seriously. The same tactics being proposed on the part of yourself have been used in the ongoing so-called "war on drugs" and they have served to do absolutely nothing but make the problem even worse than it was. The exact same thing would happen if such tactics were utilized with firearms.

 

So you agree that nothing you propose will have any effect on firearm related deaths. Great.

 

It seems it is impossible for yourself to stop over using reflexive pronouns incorrectly too.

 

Didn’t think so. Gunners somehow confuse regulation with banning. It’s natural.

So, what have I proposed ?

 

Huh?

 

Exactly.

 

So, if the process of obtaining class three weapons is extremely easy, you’d have no problem with AR15 platform weapons, subject to more extensive definition , being classified as class three weapons. Great.

 

Which there is no rational nor legal reason for doing so.

 

Yea, i figured you wouldn’t be able to intelligently lay out your argument.

 

Nope. As there is exactly zero rational reason to do so, as it would have no effect on firearm related deaths. So now that you know this, you will stop advocating for such silly things.

 

Why ? It’s extremely easy, and class three weapons regulation seems to have little effect on gun crimes. There should be no problem. Oh. It’s silly making these weapons class three which by your own admission, makes them very easy to obtain.

“Nope. The process to obtain a class 3 weapon is extremely easy. I have 2 of them.”

Now you can have many more. It’s extremely easy !

 

Because it doesn’t stop anyone from obtaining one, and they aren’t used in the vast majority of shootings.

This is entirely incoherent.

 

Then why doesn’t everyone have machine guns now ?
It’s “extremely easy “

 

Get used to it, that's his SOP.

 

Logic is hard to understand, by the illogical. You said that class three were extremely easy to obtain. Class three weapons like machine guns negligibly affected the number of mass murders in the last five decades. Why not include weapons that have shown to be used in mass murders like AR15s platform, as class three

 

A lot of people do.

Easy and affordable are 2 different things. Are you under the impression that all class 3 weapons are machine guns? I bet you are. Lol

 

You make this painfully obvious in every one of your posts.

Which is correct.

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Because there is no legal or rational basis to do so. It would have no effect what so ever on firearm related deaths.