Something Weird Is Going On in Nigeria

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Merwen, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    You din't know anything about Nigeria either.
     
  2. Mandelus

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    Lol .... this joke was good!

    Turn around, go back and educate you better about a topic by your own, before you write such nonsense ... thank you!
     
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    No it's much worse and has been going on nearly as long.

    The Catholic Protestant aggravation of the various state rivalries have long been little more than a distant echo, but Islamo - everyone else remains an aggravating condition in much of Africa.
     
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    Do keep in mind this started as an economic issue. Oil produced in the North traveled South to the ports but the oil money stayed in the South. It's not now nor has it ever been a religious war. Yes, alQaida sees an opening and is supporting Boko Haram but it's still all about the Franklins. If the South doesn't find a way to distribute some of the wealth where it originated then it is prime to a religious conflict as alQaida will do everything they can to make it one.
     
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  5. Merwen

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    There's a qualitative difference here that you are totally missing.

    Kidnapping over 200 girls from a different ethnic group and using them as you will is not and never has been acceptable by anyone that considers themselves civilized...and going essentially unchallenged in this for over three years now indicts the entire society they were living in, especially the leaders of that society.

    IMO the entire government of Nigeria deserves to be strung up.

    If that kidnapping had happened when anyone but a Muslim sympathizer had been president of the US, IMO those girls would have been back home with their parents within a month.
     
  6. Merwen

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    How do you "sort out" over 200 young women being kidnapped and forced to become Muslims or sex slaves?
     
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    Ironic given that you are erroneously conflating religious terrorism with tribalism.

    An example of Nigerian tribalism was when they committed genocide against the Biafran tribe because they tried to secede from Nigeria.

    Boko Haram is not a tribal organization at all. It is an extremist religious sect that is opposed to the government of Nigeria and uses terrorism to accomplish it's nefarious goals.

    Oh, and by senselessly "stringing up" the entire Nigerian government you would actually be doing EXACTLY what Boko Haram wants done themselves. :eek:
     
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    I don't. Nigerians do.
     
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    Not quite. The oil is produced in the south.
    Do you still feel the same about income redistribution?
     
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  10. Margot2

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    That's rather silly. Nobody knows where the girls are. Nobody "sympathizes" with Boko Haram. Sometimes I wonder if some people have NO life at all...or have lost their minds.. or enjoy fantastic drama.
     
  11. Merwen

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    With modern imaging equipment anyone can be found anywhere on the planet.
     
  12. Merwen

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    Christians had a nerve going into Africa and spreading Christianity if they had no intention of helping their new bretheren with situations like this kidnapping. Leaving helpless Christians in Africa to the "tender mercies" of Islamists is simply not acceptable. Preferentially importing Muslims to the US while ignoring the plight of Christian victims of Islam is even worse.
     
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    Informative, but you must be responding to someone else, because I do not conflate the two.
     
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    Talking of 'Nigerians', how about this little nugget . . .

    "The head of Nigeria’s spy agency had $43 million of cash just lying around in one of his apartments."
    Wonder how much was lying around in his other apartments? I expect a lot of that was UK taxpayers' cash given to Nigeria in the form of 'overseas development funding'?:roflol:'Those whom the gods wish to destroy . . . ' :roll:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/20/nigerian-spy-chief-caught-with-43-million-in-cash-is-suspended/
     
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    Nigeria's a hard nut to crack. It's actually a rich country. But so many people there live in poverty because of the corruption.

    The UK has been kind to Nigerians and tried to supplement welfare on behalf of the flailing government. Maybe because they desire stability there to maintain oil flow.

    The direct source of the 50 mln is unlikely to be DFID, because there are other sources with far fewer control and accountability problems. I would be a fool to rule out the possibility, though.

    In any event, the UK's social support for Nigerians indirectly supports corruption because it acts as a brake on the social unrest that could lead to correction. Problem is that social unrest in Africa has not been pretty and has not often resulted in better governance.
     
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    Except that you did conflate the two yet again in this post of yours;

    That you cannot recognize that you are fallaciously equating all Muslims with Islamist terrorists is not my problem.
     
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    There are some things that are so heinous every civilized person on the planet should take note.
     
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    No it's not-- your problem is that you have mixed up posts of another poster with mine.
     
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    Onus is entirely on YOU to prove your allegation.
     
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    Take note, sure. But if we fly in with an intent to "cure", we can actually entrench.
     
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    Good point!

    Religions thrive on the "martrydom" of those that die for them. It is a form of "justification" to claim that some were willing to give up their lives for the "cause". Those deaths become a recruiting tool to grow the religion.
     
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    I actually loathe West Africans - for the most part they're arrogant and cunningly opportunistic. East Africans are just the opposite with their respectfulness and friendliness.
     
  23. Latherty

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    I don't blame you. They enriched themselves from the slave trade and oil wealth followed. It is a deeply corrupt and immoral part of the world.

    Then you get the underlying rural animalism and tribal brutality and it can get quite scary in places.

    But the modern set of young professionals in the global diaspora and urban centres are quite amicable and hard working.
     
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    Agree that. I guess the intelligent and diligent ones want to get away from it the same as anyone with a moral code would.
     
  25. Derideo_Te

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    It is always a fallacy to make sweeping generalizations.

    There are corrupt people all over the world but they are the minority, fortunately.

    The average person is law abiding, friendly and respectful of others irrespective of where they live.
     
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