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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    What?

    You owe every nickel of your wealth to the existence of businesses. They are the source of all wealth.

    You are hopelessly confused.
     
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    We have to go faster to accomplish anything serious. And the challenges are enough to keep both countries busy for forever. The technology needs to be developed to make the trips in a lot less time for a lot less money. Whoever does that will win.
     
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    Yep. SpaceX is kicking a lot of ass in that department. Will anyone even catch up or overtake them?
     
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    Obviously that is up to federal government. They are the customer.
     
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    Much more interested in this than Mars at this point, Venus is pretty neat. I wish we would make more missions to other planets and their moons, some of which are very interesting. Mars and our moon are very popular, unfortunately that leads to ignoring a lot of other things in the solar system.

     
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    No, there are lots of customers who want to put stuff in space. It is certainly not limited to governments, let alone the US government.

    By making a huge reduction in the cost of putting stuff in space, the number of customers is increasing substantially. Organizations of science and education are finding it economically possible to put stuff of their own design in orbit.

    Musk's company itself is a serious example, as it is loading the space around Earth with communications satellites that will bring internet connectivity to vast regions of Earth that are not connected today. That is entirely private enterprise.

    And, that includes portions of the USA as well as other countries. Our government has not succeeded in causing internet connectivity to be available to Americans. So, consider what is happening in countries that don't have our wealth and do have other serious problems to solve.

    Having broad internet availability in places where there is none today is a major economic advancement, bringing the modern economy to regions which are excluded due to technology limits.

    Musk can offer ISS transportation to Russia for half what Russia has charged the US for astronaut trips to the ISS and back.

    With the cost of launch continuing to decrease, it's hard to imagine the extent of what will become economic in space. And, it certainly won't be limited to governments.
     
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    'if one of us is not environmentally responsible, we live in a culture that does not incentivize environmental responsibility. we might quibble about the numbers, but do you really think our culture values the environment?
     
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    Yes. The vast bulk of real pollution and other environmental abuse is the result of a very few wealthy and influential elites and the industries they have monopolized.
     
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    no argument there,
     
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    This sounds Marxist.
    Biggest pollution problem in our neck of the woods (Australia) is Indonesian farmers
    burning off.
    And all those guys and gals driving cars
    And all those homes wanting gas hot water systems
    And all those jobs that come from coal mining, and the royalties to pay our welfare bills.

    So if we had a Marxist society and shot everyone who owned a tractor or two cows
    we would still have a pollution problem - and it comes from you and me.
     
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    Not all wealth, it depends on the business. Grog, tobacco and junk food are destroyers of health and wealth. Only the employees benefit from wages, if they avoid those products.

    OTOH education is the beginning of wealth creation - a public business.

    Unfortunately you have been deluded by Milton Friedman, the greatest disaster in economic thinking adopted by the Western world. Hence Western capitalism has degenerated into financial capitalism while China has become the world's factory, and is building its own space station, while lifting more people out of poverty at a faster rate than any nation in history.
     
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    All wealth

    Government has nothing to do with wealth creation. It is a wealth spender. Private schools are businesses.

    Unfortunately you have been deluded by partisan economics and a lack of common sense.[/quote][/QUOTE]
     
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    Photo from Mars released by China space agency a couple of days ago:

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    Apparently taken by a camera previously placed (by the rover) at a distance from the rover and its landing platform seen in this photo.

    Looks like a typical gibber plain in Australia ....which I suppose is why there are only 25 million people in Australia - despite being about the same size as China...... :)
     
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    Talk about the WOW FACTOR !!!..........Captivating.
     
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    Looks like Mars needs plants.
    GREEN!

    We need studies of what GREEN life
    is most adaptable to Mars.
    Algae? Not likely as it really needs so much water.
    Algae in ice is not that prolific. It is just there.

    Maybe drought resistant grasses, trees, cactus & desert flora.


    Moi
    Make Mars GREEN Again!





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    Shunned from ISS, China sends astronauts to build its own space station in first crewed mission since 2016

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/china/...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru


    Successful launch. successful docking. They are moving ahead in this arena very rapidly... Good for them. Perhaps one day relationships will improve into a cooperative basis........

    How can we hope to get along with beings from other planets./ galaxies ......when we can't get along with other nations on our own planet??
     
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    Auroras on Mars captured in clearest view yet, enchanting scientists

    "Scientists thought Mars lost its global magnetic field billions of years ago, but the red planet has stunned astronomers by producing a glow of auroras similar to Earth’s northern lights. Scientists are keen to study auroras on Mars because they not only reveal properties of the planet’s atmosphere, but can solve other mysteries of the solar system."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/spa...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru
     
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    Well done. A new era indeed.......Congratulations to the Branson Team.

    It is not just an adventure.........it is an experience that gives one a new & greater appreciation of our beautiful and fragile planet.

    Next up:

    Jeff Bezos........
     
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    Tantalizing clues in the hunt for alien life draw astronomers' attention to two moons

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    The joy and wonder of exploration and potential discovery.
     
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