'Staggering numbers': Early voting is breaking records in 2020

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  1. doombug

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    Double LOL!!!!!!
     
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    US GDP 3rd quarter 2016 - 2.9%
    US GDP 4th quarter 2019 - 2.1%

    You're right, not the same results, Obama achieved must better results, got the US out of the huge recession he inherited and paid off that loan. Those "part time temporary contract positions" worked wonders for USA Limited
     
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    Trump is a spoiled rich kid, who is not too smart, and who covers up a lot of self doubt behind a wall of bluster.

    He has craved celebrity, for no other reason than narcissism vanity.

    He has never been held responsible for anything.

    So, when ,you’re incompetent and you know it, you’re afraid of making a mistake, doing nothing but bluster is your go to solution.
     
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    That’s not a solution. That’s like having a patient bleeding out on the table from a wound and you take an iv and start pumping him full of blood but you never fix the wound. As long as you’re pumping him full of blood (artificial funding through taxpayer stimulus dollars), he will stay alive. But as soon as you run out of blood, he’s going to start dying again because you never fixed the problem in the first place.

    The problem is Obama didn’t think you COULD fix the problem as demonstrated by his magic wand comment and stating unemployment would never go under 6% again (or whatever number he said). But he needed the jobs to make his administration appear better. So he took billions of dollars from taxpayers and pumped it into government contracts and projects where he hired a bunch of part time and temporary workers and made his economy appear to be doing better than it was. That’s not a solution, that’s a bandaid.
     
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    Lol...I think just the opposite. Unleashed, trump will devote his life to avenging petty grievances and milking as much money as he can from the system and boasting.
    I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of trump and his self centred demagoguery.
     
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    Trump has OBJECTIVELY achieved more with a house who refuses to compromise with him than essentially any other president in history.
     
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    What do you think tax cuts are? Government contracts do not increase GDP. Obama achieved higher profits for USA Limited (2.9% GDP rate) than Trump achieved for USA Limited (2.1% GDP rate). The loan taken by USA Limited when Obama was President was paid off. The loan taken by USA Limited during Trump's Presidency is no where near being paid off. Trump just wasted money when the US economy was doing well and now there is nothing left just at the time that money is needed.
     
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    of course not, that is how Trump won last time, people thought no way Republicans could possibly vote for someone like that, no one making that mistake this time - everyone get out and vote
     
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    President Harris will be far worse as a demagogue. She is every bit as shrill, harsh and narcissistic. We should do better selecting nominees, except that the primary voters said, "No" to Kamala and the DNC dumped Bernie (again) against the desires of many on the left and installed Alzheimer's man, who will be easily shoved in a direction by people behind the scenes.

    Trump was a Democrat most of his life. He used to be a huge supporter of Hillary Clinton. His actual policies have been fairly centrist and mainstream. I didn't vote for him in 2016 because I didn't believe he was a conservative, or would at least carry out the "role" of conservative. He has been too liberal with spending to suit conservatives tastes, and not all, but much of that is Covid-related. He has worked toward his core promises, so he earned my vote. However, in a second term, I believe he is far more likely to work across the aisle. He will surely fight against the radical Socialist element which has invaded the Democrat Party, but even moderate Democrats poll to not want to take the country in a socialist direction, as opposed to some expansion of social safety nets.

    In one case, we will find out and in the other case we will never know. Depends who wins/loses.
     
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    Yes. Because he is not a hard-core right winger. He has simply opposed the truly hard-core far left and tried to expose internal corruption of the non-elected bureaucracy in D.C.
     
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    ~ But KamaLa~La will not be entertaining and shocking to keep us interested. Trump is a showman - we get our money's worth. Harris is just a boring shrew ...
     
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    :roflol:

    And if you believe that there is this BRIDGE in Brooklyn that I can offer you at a greatly reduced price with only one previous owner.

    :roflol:
     
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    Sorry, already voted yesterday for Trump; City Island Library Daytona.
     
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    How many QEs were enacted during Obama's 'recovery'?
     
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    Trump raised the debt more than Obama, and we're still facing a recession if not a depression - Trump is worse than Bush.. sad!
     
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    I'm considering several larger-than-usual purchases for things and modifications around the house. When do you think that really steep price declines will begin?

    The Fed and all these other stinking 'central banks' have been pumping trillions of dollars in imaginary money at zero-interest everywhere, but at some point this 'fraud-balloon' insanity must end. I won't touch these overvalued stock markets with that proverbial 'ten-foot-pole', but I really would like to take advantage of the inevitable DEFLATION. :banana:

    Anybody got an idea when 'reality' is coming back to the economy and prices start coming down to a point that makes sense?
     
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    I cashed out the bulk of my investments when the wannabe Fascist-in-Chief began infesting the Oval office and and just kept the money in inflation protected treasuries for most of his term. When the market collapsed earlier this year I purchased S&P500 funds with that cash and have seen gains around 40% as a result.

    If I was concerned about another market crash I would have cashed out again but I haven't for the simple reason that although he is going to do his utmost to destroy our nation when he LOSES next month there is a limit to the harm that he can do to the economy that is still at a low point even though the market has recovered.

    The Wall Street Casino Banksters KNOW that a second Pandemic stimulus deal means more profits and therefore the market will just wait him out. Once Biden starts putting these stimulus bills into action things will go back to "normal".
     
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    Hello, Te! Good to hear from you! I agree with much you say, but still see no (NO) merit in the arrival of a Biden presidency for anybody but an indolent parasite class waiting for 'Mommy' to come running with more 'free stuff'. Truth? I'm thinking this 'one-trick pony' of imaginary money infusions at zero-percent interest that the Fed has been riding since 2007 is about to fall over in sheer exhaustion.

    You were wise to predict market behavior as you did earlier this year, but surely the 'joy ride' is going to come to a grinding halt this winter...(?). Sure, some corporations will do well, but how will the millions upon millions of people who actually work for a living fare...? Not at all well, I think -- because even though the government (no matter who is 'president') can go on churning out $1,200 checks for a few more months, the money really doesn't go very far when prices are as high for nearly EVERYTHING as they are right now.

    I very unprofessionally have decided that the stock markets (ALL of them) are insanely overvalued -- and they've been overvalued for a lot longer than this Chinese bio-weapon has been around (remember the "Repo-Crisis" in September 2019?). Prices have got to come down -- a lot -- and when this much-needed DEFLATION finally starts to take hold, it will be dramatic. My only question, then, is WHEN will it begin? Maybe February (no matter who 'wins')?
     
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    Interesting.. Another Gretchin Freudian slip, letting the world know that we are screwing society until we get what we want..... then we will "allow" society to go back to normal.
     
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    Not to mention the Recovery and Reinvestment Act was doled out specifically to help prop up liberal unions in failing blue states.
     
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    Nice to see you again too, Cy.

    I am no expert when it comes to investing and the two best stock investments that I ever made were more chance than skill. I did significantly better owning property than I ever did on the market. As a slow learner with regard to the stock market it eventually dawned on me that the MYTH of stocks is only there to dupe the gullible and yes, I was one of them.

    However my current strategy is to let the professionals do all the work for me. They have a vested interest in the GROWTH of the stock market and therefore I am just going along for the ride. I am more than happy if I am NOT losing money on the market. If DEFLATION occurs I can guarantee that the Wall Street Casino Banksters will figure out a way to still make money so MY money is on them doing exactly that.

    Instead I am doubling down on my property investment. I am on track to ensure that I reduce my monthly outflows as much as I can. I began with Solar hot water and that reduced my utility bill by 30% and paid itself off in 3 years. My next investment is to go off the utility grid entirely and that will pay for itself in 7 years. I expect to put that into effect around the end of the year. I have negotiated for free internet so I don't have that bill either. In addition I have cut the Cable and use my free internet so that is yet another monthly savings.

    All of these monthly amounts mean that my money remains in my bank account and adds up. In essence there is no stock market investment that I could make that would bring me these kinds of returns. My property value will increase as a result of these investments so I see it as a win-win. Getting to keep more of my money means it will last that much longer in retirement.

    I assume that you have already been notified of the MASSIVE 1.3% INCREASE to your SS check where the wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is generously allowing Seniors like you and I to wallow in luxury for the next year. Given that he has ALREADY tried to GUT the FUNDING for SS if he gets another term there might not even be any checks at all in 4 years time.

    My strategy is to REDUCE my OVERHEADS and PRESERVE my position by taking the bare minimum of risks. At least I know that I will be able to keep the lights on and stay in touch via the internet.

    To put this another way the only changes that I am able to make are to my own spending and by making prudent choices now I am anticipating being in a stable position financially moving forward irrespective of the stock market or imbeciles like the wannabe Fascist-in-Chief.
     
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    Can't wait to here Trump's conspiracy theories about this one.
     
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    I have a picture somewhere with one of those "shovel ready" jobs where the Highway commission was doing road work on a Colorado mountain road. Was no real work taking place, but every 50 feet there was a flag person advising to slow down. There had to be 100 people along that stretch and maybe 5 guys doing actual road work... Most ludicrous waist of tax payer dollars I've ever seen.
     
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    Talk to those who are expecting to be able to supply people with more COVID related assistance about your concerns regarding the debt.

    The follow up of 'sad' provides nothing to the conversation. Most posters here are well acquainted with your views, but if it helps relieve your angst....
     
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    You are incorrect. "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms," The "bear" part is as clear as it gets.
     
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