State governments should switch to a parliamentary system because it's superior

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Would you prefer this system

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  2. No

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Statistically, the black men hold a strong lead in both absent father and non-payment of child support categories. .
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    We are a constitutional federal democratic republic.
     
  3. RodB

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    You're missing the entire point. I am not referring to anything associated or related to the Florida brouhaha. That was an entirely different thing than the electoral vote challenges of 2000, 2004, and 2016.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Seeing how the United Kingdom has gone through 6 prime ministers in just a few years I'm going to say no. I like our bicameral system though I would prefer we get rid of the electoral college
     
  5. garyd

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    You are insisting on being wrong. The president is not in the chain of command for the DC police and hasn't ever been ergo he can't command them to do any thing. Neither can he send in the national guard with out a request which if it came at all it came to late to matter.
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    There are other, similar explanations:

    "The District of Columbia National Guard is the branch of the United States National Guard based in the District of Columbia. It comprises both the D.C. Army National Guard and the D.C. Air National Guardcomponents.

    The president of the United States is the commander-in-chief for the District of Columbia National Guard. Command is exercised through the secretary of defense and the commanding general, Joint Force Headquarters (JFHQ), District of Columbia National Guard. The Secretary of Defense has delegated his command authority to the secretary of the Army for the District of Columbia Army National Guard and the secretary of the Air Force for the District of Columbia Air National Guard. The District of Columbia National Guard is commanded by a major general with a brigadier general as his or her adjutant general. The mayor of the District of Columbia, the United States Marshal for the District of Columbia, or the National Capital Service director may request the commander-in-chief to aid them in suppressing insurrection and enforcement of the law; however, there is no chain of authority from the District of Columbia to the D.C. National Guard."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_National_Guard
     
  7. LangleyMan

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    More than 45 years of Canadian citizenship (I added it to my U.S. citizenship—born, raised in California). Without a majority, parliament can meet and undo anything the PM does.
     
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    No they were arguing over whether to recount the entire state or just three Democratic countries.
     
  9. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Have you heard of Republicanism? That's people that are anti monarchs. Republics are the opposite of monarchs.

    Representative democracy means The people vote for representatives. This is not hard to understand. The GOP simply uses "We're a republic not a democracy" to excuse the electoral college.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    Consider...

    "Under the District of Columbia Home Rule Act, whenever the president of the United States determines that special conditions of an emergency nature exist which require the use of the Metropolitan Police for federal purposes, the president may direct the mayor to provide, and the mayor shall provide, such services of the Metropolitan Police force for up to 48 hours. During longer periods of time, the president must provide to Congress in writing his or her reasons for continuing control of the MPD. This control can be extended at any time beyond 30 days if either the emergency continues or if Congress passes a law ordering it. During this nature of emergency, the MPD is considered a federal law enforcement agency."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Department_of_the_District_of_Columbia

    Trump could have organized the DC National Guard through the DoD and the DC Metro Police through the DC Mayor. This could have been done at the first sign of trouble, or better still before 1/6.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    They were arguing over ballots, not trying to get Florida to refuse to certify the Florida 2000 election and thus deny Bush enough votes to be declared President by the Electoral College.
     
  12. Dayton3

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    There are plenty of non meat, meat substitutes. Some (not all of course) quite tasty.
     
  13. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    That's a direct cause of FPTP, you get a less than 40% of the votes but a majority allows for more extreme and awful leaders to get elected. Under a proportional system a party as crazy as Brexit Conservatives never gets a majority.
     
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    yes, but natural meat is the healthier choice
     
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    And posse comitatus means the president can't on his own authority send the guard anywhere within the boundaries if the United States.
     
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    But you don't need a majority in a parliamentary system. Multi party blocs often form governments.
     
  17. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Extremist parties are never in charge of the coalition. Because they need more moderate parties to join them.
     
  18. LangleyMan

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    Take 2000. What are you talking about?
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    That's why the DC National Guard is deployed through the DoD.
     
  20. fmw

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    Gridlock is the only defense we have against federal government. The voters did well by restoring it.

    The parties do that now.

    You have no idea how far I think reform should go. It would be scary for people who support government over the public.
     
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    pushing 10th amendment judges is another way.
     
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    Germany's parliamentary system has screwed up their energy policy so badly, despite Trump's loud, repeated, and correct warnings to them, that Germans are now learning to waltz so that they will create enough calories this winter that they don't perish from the cold.

    [​IMG]https://www.latestly.com › socially › world › these-germans-are-trying-to-dance-the-cold-away-amid-europes-energy-crisis-as-part-of-an-latest-tweet-by-reuters-4441364.html
    These Germans Are Trying to Dance the Cold Away Amid Europe's Energy ...

    'Reuters states, 'These Germans are trying to dance the cold away amid Europe's energy crisis as part of an initiative called 'Let's move - Tanzt Euch warm,' which translates to 'warm up by dancing'' These Germans Are Trying to Dance the Cold Away Amid Europe's Energy Crisis as Part of an ... - Latest Tweet by Reuters.'
     
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    I disagree. Government hates the 10th amendment so it ignores it. They have dismantled the 10th by using judicial decisions. Gridlock actually works.
     
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    Another reason to not support the parliamentary system.
     
  25. LangleyMan

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    The President can federalize the national guard under some circumstances.

    "The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the President of the United States to deploy U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection, or rebellion.

    The act provides a 'statutory exceptio'" to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which limits the use of military personnel under federal command for law enforcement purposes within the United States.

    Before invoking the powers under the Act, 10 U.S.C. § 254 requires the President to first publish a proclamation ordering the insurgents to disperse. As part of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, these provisions are now codified as amended.

    There are Constitutional exceptions to Posse Comitatus restrictions rooted in the President's own constitutional authority. Defense Department guidelines describe 'homeland defense' as a 'constitutional exception' to Posse Comitatus restriction, meaning that measures necessary to guarantee National Security from external threats are not subject to the same limitations."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807
     

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