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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone said zero deaths. That is a falsehood.
     
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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    It strengthens your immune system and lessens the potency of the virus, thus preventing more serious complications and death to the vaccinated.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That was from the SOURCE that you ALLEGED but FAILED to provide and yes, there were ZERO deaths in that source ergo it was NOT a "falsehood".
     
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    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    Time to hoard toilet paper yet again
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scotland is having an increase in deaths among the vaccinated in their third wave.

    https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/29/87-percent-covid-deaths-are-vaccinated-people/

     
  6. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know why they’re even calling it a vaccine. It doesn’t vaccinate anything. It’s more of a pre treatment
     
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    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-expose/

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

    Great job FLUSHING what was left of your CREDIBILITY away!

    PRICELESS!

    :roflol:
     
  8. ToddWB

    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    crank Well-Known Member

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    It's true. I'm on the inside of the fight (professionally), and the outcomes are very clear. Vaccinated people have massively reduced mortality.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I appreciate your reasonable reply, but as they say, "It's complicated."

    Most importantly, since this whole thing began most all of the important data has been manipulated, misrepresented. Using a good test for the wrong reasons and in the wrong way is a very large part of the deception. You blame the left, and I cannot disagree, but the truth is both parties have played this game, brought this deception. This has been a world wide effort, headed up by WHO, with the men of Davos behind the screen pulling the strings.

    Anyway, it's good to see an independent thinker. :nod:
     
  11. independentthinker

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    While there is a lot of truth to what you say, the bottom line facts are that the unvaccinated are being hospitalized and dying at a far faster rate than the vaccinated. It's hard to get past that, even though much of what you say is true.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    What you have just posted is propaganda pushed by Pharma & Fauci. FYI, they've been pushing similar propaganda for the last 18 months.

    All the best.
     
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    There is propaganda pushed by BOTH sides. To believe that only one side is pushing propaganda and your side is not, is just being blind.
     
  14. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm like you--independent. I'm Libertarian. I reject the rhetoric of the duopoly.

    The point is that it's propaganda, meant to inform the gullible.

    All this talk of the Delta variant and the stuff you posted is virtually meaningless.

    Anecdotally, I personally never knew a person who died from the virus, but I already know 2 who've died from the injections, and I know a handful who were maimed by them.
     
  15. ToddWB

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    The ol' "they all do it" argument.. works great to keep people confused to th epoint of inaction.. but the truth is.. only one of those sides are becoming billionaires and gaining great and totalitarian powers.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you argue unvaccinated are NOT being hospitalized, then why dont you offer something to back up your claim? Its easy just call everything propaganda, but if you can't prove it then your comment will be treated as propaganda.
     
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    Anecdotally I know of one person who wishes he had not had the vaccine, claiming it gave him heart problems. I also know another who was, for lack of a better term, maimed by the J&J vaccine. I also know several others who had mild side effects from the vaccines but that is expected. I'm not anti-vax. I have received many vaccines over the years and will continue to do so. I got the Covid vaccine six months ago and have not suffered in any way from it, so far.

    When it comes to the public health some people are just over the top with their fears. Yes, reactions can happen to many things, including antibiotics. But, the world is much better off with antibiotics than without. Same goes for vaccines. I think it is a choice everyone must make and I don't begrudge anyone for making a different choice than I. I certainly understand justified fears of this new vaccine and will not attack anyone for their beliefs in not getting the vaccine. Misinformation is being pushed by both sides. The propaganda is free flowing from all sides. It's not just the right or the left. There are many conspiracy theories from the right which just plain aren't true but the left purposely buries the bad stories so they can push their pro vaccination agenda misinformation campaign, topped off by the Biden administration claiming the public doesn't need to know anything about their breakthrough cases or those in Pelosi's office.
     
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    Wooooooooooooosh. To be honest, I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say. Could you be more specific? I can't even tell which side you are on.
     
  19. independentthinker

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    Could you please explain to me what I wrote that you quoted of mine that you disagree with? This is what I wrote that you quoted:

    the bottom line facts are that the unvaccinated are being hospitalized and dying at a far faster rate than the vaccinated
     
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  20. Pro_Line_FL

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    Read the post you responded to. I quoted you saying what you said, and then the disagreement from the other poster, and I asked HIM to prove his point. I agree that the unvaxxed are filling hospitals, but he called it propaganda, without offering a shred of proof.
     
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    One side has media backing and government support and they tend to have the loudest voices. Numbers for vaccinated infected are harder to come by and of course there is propaganda there as well, but what is trickling out is worrisome.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Its common knowledge that the vaccinated carry the virus aka are infected. Its just that they dont get sick.
     
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    Why do you use the word "claim" in your first sentence?

    What is involved with the person you say was "maimed" by the vaccine?

    When/where did Biden say that the public doesn't need to know about breakthrough cases?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes they can become symptomatic and even die.
     
  25. Heartburn

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    It seems they do actually.
     

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