Stop Trying to Position Atheism as Merely a Lack of Belief

When was the last time a homosexual was executed in America? Get with the program, we aren't even Jews.

 

No, they want people who don't share their beliefs to participate in their rituals and if they don't they lose their businesses. We saw it coming.

 

No one is forced to participate in a gay marriage.

 

I am glad Christians aren't following the old testament. But you guys believe that God is going to torture the gays for eternity for loving. If you lived in ancient Judea would you obey God and murder gay people?

1 Corinthians 6
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

 

Oh sure, for over two centuries Christians suppressed an idea nobody ever heard of before the 1980s.

 

Who said anything about two centuries? It’s just me is trying to claim it’s paranoia to believe that Christians would use the law to force their beliefs on other people. Gay marriage and the Christian fight against it is just one example.

 

Better ask that baker in Oregon.

 

How does baking a cake force you to participate in a marriage?

Also, if you don’t want to abide by laws that prohibit discrimination by a business open to the public, then perhaps instead make your business a private club that caters only to members?

 

Wow. So you approve people in the bible murdering gays but its a horror that bakers can't be bigots and refuse service based on sexual orientation like they can't refuse service based on race.

 

Where do you get these straw man arguments, you didn't get them in my Church.

You know, there are people in the world who try to tell me that the word "homosexual" used here is a mistranslation. What is the proper translation, if you know so much?

Furthermore, I see that you have no problem with adulterers and idolaters burning in hell.

If ANYBODY ends up in he'll it will be because they have refused God's forgiveness, which He freely offers and freely gives.

 

I don't approve of anything and if you want to continue this you'd better start getting honest.

 

Ever work in a bakery? I'm going to say no. Big cakes have to be taken in pieces and assembled on site.

But let me get this straight: it's okay to prevent a football team from having a prayer before the game (a first Amendment right) but it's not okay to refuse service to anyone for any reason?

It's the hypocrisy that makes us nuts, not the fact that you're atheists.

 

Did you hear about up in Canada, a transgendered male who thinks hes female is suing the body wax shop because the female Muslim employee refused to wax his johnson. LOLOL!!! Its a crazy world.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/transg...t-after-muslim-woman-refuses-to-wax-genitals/

 

She needs to be run out of business!

 

If a football team wants to pray before a game, no one is stopping them.

It’s perfectly okay to refuse service to people for reasons like health issues (no shirt, no shoes, no service) or if they are being disruptive to the business. But the US has laws that ban discrimination based on things like race and gender from businesses open to the public.

 

Wrong, people are stopping them. Try reading something besides Mother Jones sometime.

And we have laws banning prohibition of Constitutional rights, too.

 

No one has prevented any football teams from praying if they want to pray. What they have stopped is prayer led by a government official (for instance a school employee like a coach). If the players want to have a prayer, no one is stopping them.

Which Constitutional right is violated by discrimination laws applying to publicly open businesses?

 

You're in denial, if you don't like that example I'll give you the issue with the valedictorian speeches, happens every year at this time.

Discrimination laws stifle freedom of speech, religion, and association. You guys are always screaming "freedom from religion". Well, this is freedom from association.

Personally, I don't care. If they want a cake, give them the damn cake. If you don't want to, someone else will. But you don't get to tell free people what they can and can't do and say. You're not God.

 

And I’ll present you with evidence of the ACLU fighting on behalf of Christian valedictorians who have had their rights violated by the state.

If you don’t want to associate with the public, don’t operate a business open to the public. It’s that simple. Operate a private club and you can have any discrimination you want.

 

Your business IS private property, it doesn't become government owned because it is open to the public. If it was your home it would be perfectly all right. You don't get to tell small businessmen what they can and can't do.

 

Homes are not open to the public. Business that are not private clubs are.

Anti-discrimination laws for business, small or large, open to the public are both established law and constitutionally verified law.

 

We'll see about that when the SCOTUS hears it next month. You can't tell a gay person from a straight one, they have to tell you, then it becomes an action, gays have never been a race. The situation is different so the response has to be different.

 

Alright that confirms it for me. I hit too close to home for you. I laid out a perfectly logical case that explained my statement. I'm sorry if you feel threatened by it, although I'm not sure why you would even if you are religious. I'm sure you're well aware of your inner reasons for any religious beliefs you have and their association with emotion.

 

Discriminating against a pair of customers because they are a pair of men or a pair of women instead of a man and a woman would be gender discrimination.

 

If your business is open to the public, you have to follow laws, you cannot make up your own.