IT is making law on BEHAVIOR-BASED criteria, which is NOT a "protected right". There is no Constitutional protection for genital preference. - - - Updated - - - So much intellectual denseness, in one post. It has been VOTED DOWN, in the overwhelming majority of referendums. PLease explain how this does not constitute the "will of the voter". Keep trying to pretend that "race"= "behavior", and highlight your logical failings.
The "lesser promsicuity" of the OP, has done NOTHING to reduce the PUBLIC HEALTH NIGHTMARE of homosexual/bisexual male behavior...nor has gay marriage. Race is NOT behavior, the marriage rules are currently equal for everyone, and none of your emotion-based illogical sqwauking can altrer those SIMPLE, IRREVOCABLE FACTS.
If that is true, then how can you be losing any rights with gay marriage? There is no constitutional bias towards one type of genitals over the other, right? I am still waiting for you to explain how gay marriage violates the 14th amendment. Since you agree you are not losing any rights, how is it being violated?
You do not have a "right" to be married. Are you suggesting that dreaming up and forcing imaginary rights on the MAJORITY is "ok", because you like the idea?
In the past election, it was voted up in nearly every state that dealt with it. And based on polls, that trend is continuing. The will of the voter you are talking about is expiring. Regardless, majority opinion does not dictate right and wrong, so your point is doubly irrelevant. Strawman. I never said that. You just highlighted your own logical failings.
Glad we agree it is not a right. You were implying it was back a few pages. You have still not explained how you are losing anything from gay marriage being passed. How can you force rights on anyone? You just said this is not a right anyway. But even if it was, you have the option not to use it anyway...so how is it being forced?
By what delusion have you now tried to pretend that my "losing rights" is the "touchstone". I wouldn't "lose any rights" if you could marry your collie, either. Except that people have the RIGHT to regulate the society they live in. What "rights" are gays being denied? You are going in circles= what happens when you emply EMOTION to DEBATE LOGIC. - - - Updated - - - And the NATURAL RULES of it apply to everyone equally.
Media polls are so accurate...uh-huh. The fact remains, thay, BY FAR, the majority of referendums on gay marriage have ended with REJECTION by the VOTERS. So, your reference to "slavery" had nothing to do with "race"....
Oh good, we agree you will not lose any rights. Isn't that what they are doing by passing gay marriage? Are you abandoning your position that this violates the 14th amendment? Are we in agreement that your argument on that issue is invalid? Well, if the 14th amendment says one state has to recognize a marriage in another state or be in violation, then that would seem to say that any state that denies a gay marriage from Rhode Island would be in violation of the 14th amendment. Because they would be recognizing one marriage from Rhode Island, but not another, on an arbitrary basis.
Fallacious Argument. - - - Updated - - - That's why I used single quotes around 'animals'.....you do know what the quotes are for correct?
The fact remains that what voters say is irrelevant, whether they support same-sex marriage or not. Of course slavery has to do with race. But you accused me of claiming that "race" = "behavior." I never claimed that.
t is also what we are doing by NOT passing gay marriage. People have the RIGHT to oppose it, even if that makes you unhappy. As far as the 14th Amendment: How is that? New York doesn't have to recognize my CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT, yet there ACTAULLY is a 2nd Amendment, specifically detailing my right to bear arms.
ChErRy PiCkInG IrReLeVaNt ChErRy PiCkInG homosexuals CAN not MARRY the PERSON they ARE attracted TO. HOW does CONSTANTLY proving you WRONG mean I FAILED? also, do you think randomly capitalizing words somehow makes you right?
What "Voters say is irrelevant"; there you have it. The left intends to FORCE ITS AGENDA upon EVERYONE ELSE... You were trying to draw a parallel between race and behavior, your pretenses notwithstanding.
The vote of the majority does not determine what is right and what is wrong. I am not the left, nor I am forcing anything upon you. No I wasn't.
no they don't. But allowing same sex couples to marry would give everyone the exact same rights. so you have no valid argument against it.
When did I suggest otherwise. It does make you seem a little hypocritical though. You cannot complain about government oppression in one breath and then use it for your own social engineering in the next. I explained how. It has been applied to other marriages so far...why will this be different? Colorado does not allow minors (16) to marry, but a marriage in Alabama is still legitimate in Colorado.
No ,I think actually citing the FACTS makes me right. You have never proven anyone wrong, about anything here. That includes, but is not limited to: No one else can just "marry whover they are attracted to", either, unless they meet the EXACT SAME RULES that apply to gays, as well. the FACT that the OVERWHELMING majority of US AIDS cases are in homosexual/bisexual men, despite their being only 2%, or LESS of the population; the FACT that SEPERATE LAWS regulated race-based marriage rules; the FACT that current marriage rules are EQUAL for ALL; etc., ad nauseum. Please continue pretending you have proven any of this "wrong"; it's FUNNY. The fact remains, this thread is about the US, and everyone reading it recognizes the nontops LIES and DEFLECTIONS that are your posting MO. Ragged EMOTION, the basis of your entire worldview, is no match for LOGIC. Sorry. I don't have to "cherry pick " ANYTHING, as the CDC completely supports what I cite about US STDs, especially HIV/AIDS, in regards to HOMOSEXUAL/BISEXUAL MALES. Still waiting for you QUOTE of the court case where race-based marriage rules were challenged, that cite HOMSEXUALITY as the "same"... - - - Updated - - - So? I have already given an example of an UNDISPUTABLE CONSTITIONAL RIGHT, the 2nd Amendment protected right to bear arms, being REGULATED DIFFERENTLY, in different states.
you aren't using logic though. just like there was no need to redefine marraige to suit an emotional desire based on racial preference. the will of the voter is irrelevant. civil rights are not subject to popular vote. and we change laws based on "behavior" all the time, and is of course a rights issue. The bahavior of interracial marriage was a rights issue, just like same sex marriage is.