Subject: THIS IS WHAT OTHER IMPORTANT PEOPLE THINK OF THE JEWS..

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Same reasons. There is no comparison to the freedoms in Israel compared to the rest of the Middle East countries yet Western activists try to paint Israel as an Apartheid State and the most brutal regimes as victims. Nothing could be further from the truth.
     
  2. HBendor

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    Incorrect...
    Ariel Sharon was my friend... You do not know who Ariel Sharon is!!

    The 101 unit was organized to retaliate against Arabs who penetrated the <Land of Israel> and committed atrocious murders.

    No one has killed Arabs without a reason, a tooth for a tooth is a Jewish credo that I wholeheartedly uphold.

    Commando Unit 101 (Hebrew: &#1497;&#1495;&#1497;&#1491;&#1492; 101) was a special forces unit of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), founded and commanded byAriel Sharon on orders from Prime MinisterDavid Ben-Gurion in August 1953.They were armed with non-standard weapons and tasked with carrying out retribution operations across the state's borders—in particular, establishing small unit maneuvers, activation and insertion tactics.
    Members of the unit were recruited only from agricultural kibbutzim and moshavim. Membership in the unit was by invitation only, and any new member had to be voted on by all existing members before they were accepted.

    The unit was merged into the 890th Paratroop Battalion during January 1954, on orders of General Dayan, Chief of Staff, because he wanted their experience and spirit to be spread among all infantry units of IDF starting with the paratroopers. They are considered to have had a significant influence on the development of subsequent Israeli infantry-oriented units.

    So libeling Sharon a murderer is a total falsehood, prevarication of the first order and totally dishonest.
     
  3. xavierphoenix

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    I'm not libeling Sharon and Sharon murdered many people and that is the truth(Sharon has been described in his diaries by David Ben Gurion as "an insightful young man, innovative; if he were to surmount his weakness of not telling the truth in his reports he could be an exemplary military leader") . You are correct that it was established in 1953 to stop Arab infiltrators some of which attack Israeli civilians. Unit 101 responded to these infiltrators with raids on Arab villages believed to be where these infiltrators came from. Unit 101 committed two massacres the first one was the Bureji massacre in August 1953. Unit 101 raided Bureij refugee camp in Gaza in an attempt to assassinate Mustafa Hafez Egyptian head of intelligence in response to the infiltrators. Unit 101 was spotted in the camp. In response Sharon and his troops opened fire indiscriminately. Major General Vagn Bennike was UN commander for UN truce supervision Organization described the raid as "bombs were thrown" by Sharon's men "through the windows of huts in which the refugees were sleeping and, as they fled, they were attacked by small arms and automatic weapons "
    One member of the unit during the raid said "is this screaming, whimpering multitude the enemy?"
    20 Palestinians including 12 women and child were killed.
    http://www.nypress.com/the-crimes-of-ariel-sharon/
    https://books.google.com/books?id=w...page&q=unit 101 whimpering multitude&f=false
    When one of the unit 101 soldiers
    "An ex palmach who believed in the purity of arms he refused to participate in an expedition directed not against enemy soldiers but against the civilian population. Arik [Sharon's nickname] did not force him to take part. In a heated discussion, Shlomo Baum [Sharon's adjutant] hurled a remark at him:"There is no pure or impure arms; there are only clean weapons that work when you need them and dirty weapons that jam the moment you fire"
    "Sharon rejected the soldier's argument and told his men that the women of the camp were whores who served the infiltrators."
    https://books.google.com/books?id=b...&q=dead women were camp whore sharon&f=false

    The next raid by unit 101 was the Qibya massacre. This was in response to an infilatrator throwing a grenade at a house in Yehud killing an Israeli and her two children. In response unit 101 raided Qibya which is in the West Bank then under Jordanian control. Qibya was one of the bases of the infiltrators although no evidence that it was a base for the infiltrator that attacked in Yehud. The raid resulted in 69 Palestinians 2/3 of them women and childhood being killed. Sharon would claim( this is from a person who according to David Ben Gurion would be a great military leader if it wasn't for his habits of lying about his reports) that they were killed when the soldiers didn't realize that it's residents were hiding in their houses as they were blown up. However the evidence completely disproves that. UN observers after the attack noted ""The UN observer who inspected the scene reached a different conclusion: 'One story was repeated time after time: the bullet splintered door, the body sprawled across the threshold, indicating that the inhabitants had been forced by heavy fire to stay inside until their homes were blown up over them." Jordanian pathologists reported that most of the dead had been killed by bullets and shrapnel rather than by falling masonry or explosions. Operational orders for Qibya called for destruction and maximum killing"(original staff orders blowing up a number of houses...and hitting the inhabitants. After international outcry following the Qibya raid reprisals were limited to attacks against military targets(with exception of 1956 April artillery attack ordered by Moshe Dayan(it was unclear whether David Ben Gurion approved it) on Gaza city center that caused 58 to die in response to Egyptian artillery fire on Israeli border settlements) .
    https://books.google.com/books?id=b...&q=dead women were camp whore sharon&f=false
    Pg.144
    http://www.nypress.com/the-crimes-of-ariel-sharon/
    https://books.google.com/books?id=j...perational orders maximum destruction&f=false

    It has emerged recently that while head of southern command he ordered expulsion of over 3,000 Bedouins in the Sinai for a military exercise. This resulted in 40 people mostly children, babies, and elderly dieing due to being expelled during three freezing nights without warning and little time to prepare or gather their belongings.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...on-ordered-the-expulson-of-3000-Bedouins.html

    This is not even covering other actions of his career like first Lebanese war. On the basis of head as Unit 101 along with expulsion of Bedouin carried out while as head of southern command he was a war criminal.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its not Libel if its true.

    Sharon was a war criminal and a murderer, and condemned as such by his own government.
     
  5. xavierphoenix

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    The issue is not with Israel within the green lines. Most countries in the world including several Muslim like Albania, and Bosnia recognize Israel within the Green line. 57 Islamic countries also back the Arab peace Initiative which calls for normalizing relations(warm peace) with Israel in return for withdrawal from the territories(modified in 2007 to include land swaps). The human right violations with the territories are not as severe as other countries like North Korea,China, and Russia. However these countries don't get billions of dollars in American military aide nor do they pride themselves as a Western style democracy. It has been mentioned numerous times that many critics of Israel are Jews including Israelis many whose expertise are in military/intelligence service like late Sharon, Ehud Barak, late 6 Shin Bet chiefs, and Amos Yadlin who have stated that Israel can't continue the occupation if Israel is to remain a Jewish and democratic state.
     
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    Maybe one has to remember what the 'JEWS' are...


    The mystery of the Jews VIDEO


    https://www.youtube.com/embed/j6k1jHAYtbI#t=1226
     
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    Maybe you but not me, not Millions of Israelis!
     
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    I watched the video, how does it dispute anything I have said? I agree that Jews have made substantial contribution to society including disproportion amount as shown by 20% of noble prizes won when world population consist of 0.5%. As I have stated on this forum before, Israel within the green lines while flawed is a democratic and prosperous(again possibly the most of countries to emerge after WW2) society that has improved over the years. Again the video doesn't change any of the facts I mentioned in the quote like that the issue is human right violations in the territories which many Jews and those from Israeli establishment have been critical of.
     
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    Here is my response... just reminding everyone (2) Articles of the Mandate.


    Article 4.

    An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognized as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country.

    The Zionist organization, so long as its organization and constitution are in the opinion of the Mandatory appropriate, shall be recognized as such agency. It shall take steps in consultation with His Britannic Majesty&#8217;s Government to secure the co-operation of all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home.

    Article 6.

    The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    mandate ended in 1948
     
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    thats why its libel...

    - - - Updated - - -

    so did your dream of destroying the jews..
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why would I dream of destroying the Jews, let alone any other people?

    btw, I am a Jew.
     
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    I dont even believe that.. if so its a major disappointment..
     
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    Mandate has no legal relevance to the current situation. Mandate ended in 1948 when Israel was formed fulfilling the goal of the mandate which explicitly state a Jewish home in Palestine not an apartheid state or bi-national state. Nor again does it negate anything I said in what you quoted.
     
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    The evidence is overwhelming that Sharon was a war criminal. I'll repeat what I wrote earlier

    "I'm not libeling Sharon and Sharon murdered many people and that is the truth(Sharon has been described in his diaries by David Ben Gurion as "an insightful young man, innovative; if he were to surmount his weakness of not telling the truth in his reports he could be an exemplary military leader") . You are correct that it was established in 1953 to stop Arab infiltrators some of which attack Israeli civilians. Unit 101 responded to these infiltrators with raids on Arab villages believed to be where these infiltrators came from. Unit 101 committed two massacres the first one was the Bureji massacre in August 1953. Unit 101 raided Bureij refugee camp in Gaza in an attempt to assassinate Mustafa Hafez Egyptian head of intelligence in response to the infiltrators. Unit 101 was spotted in the camp. In response Sharon and his troops opened fire indiscriminately. Major General Vagn Bennike was UN commander for UN truce supervision Organization described the raid as "bombs were thrown" by Sharon's men "through the windows of huts in which the refugees were sleeping and, as they fled, they were attacked by small arms and automatic weapons "
    One member of the unit during the raid said "is this screaming, whimpering multitude the enemy?"
    20 Palestinians including 12 women and child were killed.
    http://www.nypress.com/the-crimes-of-ariel-sharon/

    https://books.google.com/books?id=w...page&q=unit 101 whimpering multitude&f=false

    When one of the unit 101 soldiers
    "An ex palmach who believed in the purity of arms he refused to participate in an expedition directed not against enemy soldiers but against the civilian population. Arik [Sharon's nickname] did not force him to take part. In a heated discussion, Shlomo Baum [Sharon's adjutant] hurled a remark at him:"There is no pure or impure arms; there are only clean weapons that work when you need them and dirty weapons that jam the moment you fire"
    "Sharon rejected the soldier's argument and told his men that the women of the camp were whores who served the infiltrators."

    https://books.google.com/books?id=b...&q=dead women were camp whore sharon&f=false

    The next raid by unit 101 was the Qibya massacre. This was in response to an infilatrator throwing a grenade at a house in Yehud killing an Israeli and her two children. In response unit 101 raided Qibya which is in the West Bank then under Jordanian control. Qibya was one of the bases of the infiltrators although no evidence that it was a base for the infiltrator that attacked in Yehud. The raid resulted in 69 Palestinians 2/3 of them women and childhood being killed. Sharon would claim( this is from a person who according to David Ben Gurion would be a great military leader if it wasn't for his habits of lying about his reports) that they were killed when the soldiers didn't realize that it's residents were hiding in their houses as they were blown up. However the evidence completely disproves that. UN observers after the attack noted ""The UN observer who inspected the scene reached a different conclusion: 'One story was repeated time after time: the bullet splintered door, the body sprawled across the threshold, indicating that the inhabitants had been forced by heavy fire to stay inside until their homes were blown up over them." Jordanian pathologists reported that most of the dead had been killed by bullets and shrapnel rather than by falling masonry or explosions. Operational orders for Qibya called for destruction and maximum killing"(original staff orders blowing up a number of houses...and hitting the inhabitants. After international outcry following the Qibya raid reprisals were limited to attacks against military targets(with exception of 1956 April artillery attack ordered by Moshe Dayan(it was unclear whether David Ben Gurion approved it) on Gaza city center that caused 58 to die in response to Egyptian artillery fire on Israeli border settlements) .
    https://books.google.com/books?id=b...&q=dead women were camp whore sharon&f=false
    Pg.144

    http://www.nypress.com/the-crimes-of-ariel-sharon/

    https://books.google.com/books?id=j...perational orders maximum destruction&f=false


    It has emerged recently that while head of southern command he ordered expulsion of over 3,000 Bedouins in the Sinai for a military exercise. This resulted in 40 people mostly children, babies, and elderly dieing due to being expelled during three freezing nights without warning and little time to prepare or gather their belongings."
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...on-ordered-the-expulson-of-3000-Bedouins.html

    Even this monster came to the conclusion that Israel can't hold onto West Bank if it wants to be a Jewish and democratic state.

    When did Ronstar ever say he wanted the Jews destroyed? Being critical of Israel doesn't equal you want Jews destroyed.
     
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    And I was under the impression that you knew the history of my country... Alas you do not know basics... The Mandate for Palestine encompassed Israel and Gaza of today in addition to Jordan of today. The Brits surreptitiously yanked 77% of this mandate to accommodate an upstart from the Hejaz by the name of Abdulla who had then just lost his country to the Ibn Al Saud clan... So 77% of the supposed Mandate were given to Abdulla who create the Emirate of Trans Jordan then renamed it Transjordan and ended now with the title of Jordan... You and the other bunch of anti Israel Zealots are trying to further decimate my country for your Saintly ideal purposes.
    I've got news for you and the others... This is our country and you can sing 'Kumbaya' all you want... There will never be a Palestinian - Arab entity in the heart of Israel since Jordan was created for that purpose and this is the sole Arab country who recognized the Arabs of Palestine.
     
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    at no time during the existence of the Mandate, was Jordan a part of it.

    It was ALWAYS administered seperately from Palestine.
     
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    Nobody else does, either, but I suppose its possible. There is a small political faction in Israel itself that is obviously suicidal, but doesn't want to die alone and insists on getting everybody else killed along with themselves. Mental illness is the likely cause.
     
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    I know the history of your country. I know originally mandate included Jordan which was cut off from Palestine as part of 1922 white paper. Regardless it doesn't change the fact that the mandate ended. Britain handed the mandate over to the UN which then solved the problem by recognizing Israel and Israel becoming part of United Nations with goal of Jewish home in Palestine fulfilled with formation of the state of Israel. This gives mandate no legal relevance to the situation. I"m not anti Israel Zealot. I have praised Israel within the green lines on this forum several times. While flawed it's one of the if not the most successful and democratic society/state to emerge after WW2. That is something every Israeli should be proud of. I also don't support BDS(although understand BDS on settlement products but that admantley does have flaws due to Palestinians in West Bank working at some of the settlements). I don't want to decimate your country. I want Israel to be a Jewish and democratic state as envisaged by your founders. The occupation decimates that with 2.7 million Palestinians in West Bank having limited rights compared to Israeli population located nearby. I don't want to continue denying them rights and making it impossible for long term peace. I don't want to also give Israel billions of dollars in military aide while it does that. At the same time I don't want Israel to be a bi-national state with Arabs set up to be majority(if annexed I have pointed out on this forum before that with 43% of citizens being Arab from annexation over 50 knesset seats could go to them which combined with haredi parties would give them a majority) which what would happen if Israel annexed West Bank. One thing many people don't consider especially far left which support right of return which would turn Israel into an Arab state due to the numbers that at worst Arab states are falling apart often due to sectarian violence(like Iraq, Yemen, or Syria) or at best states like Jordan, Kuwait, and Bahrain strong monarchies with limited rights and lagging behind in social economic measures. My purpose is a Jewish democratic state as envisaged by Israel's founders I would think that and not an apartheid state would a goal all would share. As I have mentioned all of your founding fathers(with exception of Shamir former leader of Stern Gang who said it's permissible to lie for Israel and Menachem Begin former leader of Irgun) including hawks like Ezer Weizman, Sharon, Ben Gurion, along with Israel's most distinguished security experts including generals like Barak, Yaladn, and 6 former Shin Bet chiefs have said you can't keep the West Bank indefinitely and be a Jewish and democratic state.
     
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    1=Why are the Jews hated? It is the inevitable result of their laws; they either have to conquer everybody or be hated by the whole human race... - VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher, writer
    2=The Jewish nation dares to display an irreconcilable hatred toward all nations, and revolts against all masters; always superstitious, always greedy for the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous - cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity - VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher, writer
    3=You seem to me to be the maddest of the lot. The Kaffirs, the Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and more honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny. - VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher, writer
    4=You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people, who for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most detestable superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all peoples which tolerate and enrich them." ("Juif," Dictionnaire Philosophique) - VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher, writer
    5=I know that there are some Jews in the English colonies. These marranos go wherever there is money to be made...But whether these circumcised who sell old clothes claim that they are of the tribe of Naphtali or Issachar is not of the slightest importance. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have ever dirtied the face of the earth." (Letter to Jean-Baptiste Nicolas de Lisle de Sales, December 15, 1773. Correspondance. 86:166) - VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher, writer
    6=They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race." (Lettres de Memmius a Ciceron, 1771) - VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher, writer
    7=I participated with Herzl in the first Zionist Congress which was held in Basle in 1897. Herzl was the most prominent figure at that first Jewish World Congress. He worked to achieve an object which had been fixed beforehand. Just as Isaiah foresaw, decades before the event occurred, the victorious power of Cyrus before anyone else, so did Herzl foresee twenty years, before we experienced them, the revolutions brought about by the Great War, and he prepared us for that which was going to happen. He foresaw the splitting up of Turkey, and he foresaw that England would obtain control over Palestine. 'We may expect important developments in the world.' These were the words spoken by Herzl twenty years before the Great War. He added that the events would offer the Jewish people fresh opportunities. - Dr. Ehrenpreis, Chief Rabbi of Sweden
    8=Hitler will have no war, but he will be forced into it, not this year but later... - The Jewish Emil Ludwig, Les Annales, June, 1934
    9=Whenever an American or a Filipino fell at Bataan or Corregidor or at any other of the now historic spots where MacArthur's men put up their remarkable fight, their survivors could have said with truth: 'The real reason that boy went to his death, was because Hitler's anti-Semitic movement succeeded in Germany. - The American Hebrew, July 24, 1942
    10=Kill the Germans, wherever you find them! Every German is our moral enemy. Have no mercy on women, children, or the aged! Kill every German -- wipe them out! - Ilya Ehrenburg, Glaser, p. 111
    11=The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end. - The Jewish newspaper, Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September 13, 1939
    12=Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred. The goal of Judaism of today is: a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation. We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child. - Jewish professor A. Kulischer, October, 1937
    13=Step by step, I have arrived at the conviction that the aims of Communism in Europe are sinister and fatal. At the Nuremberg Trials, I, together with my Russian colleague, condemned Nazi Aggression and Terror. I believe now that Hitler and the German People did not want war. But we, /England/, declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of Balance of Power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' /Jews/ around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler's pleading, not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right. He offered us the co-operation of Germany: instead, since 1945, we have been facing the immense power of the Soviet Empire. I feel ashamed and humiliated to see that the aims we accused Hitler of, are being relentless pursued now, only under a different label - Ashamed and Humiliated The British Attorney General, Sir Hartle Shawcross, said in a speech at Stourbridge, March 16/84 (AP)
    14=Our fight against Germany must be carried to the limit of what is possible. Israel has been attacked. Let us, therefore, defend Israel! Against the awakened Germany, we put an awakened Israel. And the world will defend us. - Jewish author Pierre Creange in his book Epitres aux Juifs, 1938
    15=Judea declares War on Germany. - Daily Express, March 24, 1934
    16=Germany must be turned into a waste land, as happened there during the 30-year War. - Das Morgenthau-Tagebuch, The Morgenthau Dairy, p. 11
    17=The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish community, on every conference, in all labor unions and by every single Jew in the world. There are reasons for the assumption that our share in this fight is of general importance. We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany. Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies. But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany... - Vladimir Jabotinsky, in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934
    18=...In Germany the Jews occupy the principal rìles and are first-rate revolutionaries. They are writers, philosophers, poets, orators, publicists, and bankers, and on their heads and in their hearts all the weight of ancient ignominy! They will one day be terrible for Germany...probably followed by a morrow terrible for them. - Rougeyron, 1861; Metternich, 1849; The Trail of the Serpent, Inquire Within, Miss Stoddard, p. 93
    19=I know in expressing with this frankness my ultimate opinion of the Jews, I expose myself to enormous danger. Many people share it, but very few dare to express it publicly, for the Jewish sect...constitutes today a veritable power in Europe. It reigns despotically in commerce, in the banks, and it has invaded three-quarters of German journalism, and a very considerable portion of the journalism of other countries. Woe, then, to him who has the clumsiness to displease it! - Study of the German Jews, (1869)
    20=In no place so much as in Germany do the Jews [in finance, industries and commerce] hold such an important, almost preponderant part. Therefore it might easily be said that all the newly-rich and war- profiteer, is an ancient of a thousand years...The immense majority of the influentials in Austrian Socialism were and are still Jews (1921)...finally, in a certain sense the Jews oppose themselves to non-Jews, above all in the rìle they play as initiators and actors in the extreme-left parties as internationalism opposed to nationalism. - Le Probleme Juif, (1921), Georges Batault
    21=Although the Jews have appeared in the histories of other nations throughout the centuries, they were never able or willing to establish a nation of their own. They remain forever desolate in this regard. The only way the Jews got possession of Palestine was by using other people to steal it from the Turks and Arabs for them. The so-called 'Israeli' state is nothing but a parasitic state, since it is occupied by parasites. The Jews get billions of dollars from Germany as 'reparations' and 'restitution payments' for its alleged 'war crimes' against Jews. They get billions more every year from the United States. It (Israel) has to steal or buy technology from Western nations as the Jews have not the creativity to develop their own. The Jewish state of Israeli would collapse in a minute without the continued support, protection and assistance from Jacob/Israel (The White Nations of Christendom). It is not, never has been, and never will be a self-sustaining nation. - Charles A. Weisman, Who is Esau-Edom?, pp. 27-28
    22=The German revolution is the achievement of the Jews; the Liberal Democratic parties have a great number of Jews as their leaders, and the Jews play a predominant role in the high government offices. - The Jewish Tribune, July 5, 1920
    23=I hope every German west of the Rhine River and wherever we attack, will be destroyed. - R.F. Keeling.
    24=The war time Premier (Winston Churchill) said he "thought the problem of a National Jewish Home in Palestine was too big to be handled by one single nation alone. Favors joint inquiry." I am strongly in favor of a joint inquiry by the United States and Great Britain." adding "As you probably know I am a Zionist from the beginning. - Philadelphia Record, January 11, 1946; And Men Wept, by Catherine Palfrey Baldwin, p. 83
    25=Sirs, you are doubtlessly intelligent people, however, I have a problem understanding how you found a place in prophecy for those I know to be void of a even a single drop of Hebrew blood - without any cultural or historical ties to the Holy Land and in fact simple converts to a base form of Judaism. Clinton eulogized Rabinowitz (Yitzhak Rabin) as a son of David and a son of Solomon. You must know that this man was a Khazar of Turko- Mongolian lineage, and can in no way represent a 'return' since his southern Russian ancestors never made it down to Palestine until 1948 - Christian Radio Talk Show in Birmingham, on which Dave Hunt appeared as a guest. Dave was promoting his book, A Cup of Trembling
    26=For this Jewish international, which above all is concerned with interest in its race, was putting of President of United States at this 'ideal' post of champion of human rights was clever move. In this manner they created dangerous hotbed for hatred and hostility in this hemisphere and divided world into two hostile camps. Entire issue is worked out in mysterious manner. Roosevelt has been forcing fountain for vitalizing American foreign policy and simultaneously...to procure enormous stocks for coming war for which Jews are striving fully consciously... - Document dated January 12, 1939, from Polish Ambassador in Washington, War! War! War!, Cincinnatus, pp. 173-174
    27=Another World War, plotted by Roosevelt and World Jewry, the Jewish controlled American press and radio, the British-Jewish Empire and the French Empire with a large proportion of their press and banks owned by the Jews, is being fought as these words are put down... - War! War! War!, Cincinnatus, pp. 188-189
    28=Already the pitch has been reached in Great Britain where it is considered bigoted or reactionary to do other than praise the Jews for their industry and ability. Few papers will risk any attack on the Jews, however well-founded, for fear of appearing even distantly anti-Semitic." (This is more than true in America where it is dangerous to mention any through derogatory to the Jews, and in New York it has been made a crime - Propaganda in the Next War, Sidney Robertson, p. 92; War! War! War!, Cincinnatus, p, 192
    29=There is no doubt that the...Jews aided the Persians with all the men they could muster, and that the help they gave was considerable. Once Jerusalem was in Persian hands a terrible massacre of Christians took place, and the Jews are accused of having taken the lead in this massacre. - A History of Palestine from 135 A.D. to Modern Times, James Parkes, p. 81; The Iron Curtain Over America, John Beaty, p. 194
    30=We have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We can say we can't possibly get the Congress to support a program like this. And they say don't worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress. This is somebody from another country, but they can do it. They own, you know, the banks in this country. The newspapers. Just look at where the Jewish money is. - General George S. Brown
    31=Our policy in the Middle East in my judgement is disastrous, because it's not even handed. I see no reason why hearly half the foreign aid this nation has to give goes to Israel, except for the influence of this Zionist lobby. I think the power of the news media is in the hands of a few people...it's not subject to control of the voters, it's subject only to the whim of the board of directors - Former Vice President Spiro Agnew
     
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    The right in Israel is leading to the suicide of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state. It's not a small faction that believes Israel can't hold onto West Bank and remain a Jewish and democratic state. As I have stated on this forum this is according to Israel's foundering fathers and security experts like 6 past Shin Bet chiefs. In the knesset United Arab List, Meretz, Zionist Union(Labor),Yesh Atid,Kulanu, Yisrael Beitenu(although Lieberman has stated for a deal to be made that would have to involve giving Israeli Arab cities to Palestinian state in return for annexing settlement blocs which other parties opposed) 69(even without right wing Yisrael Beitenu it's still majority at 63 seats) seats have stated they support Palestinian state. In addition, Shas has supported the Geneva Iniative . Shas also been in coalitions with parties like Meretz, Labor, and Kadima in the past.
     
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    Originally mandate did include Jordan. The 1922 white paper made Transjordan(it was called that until independence in 1946) an autonomous part of Palestine mandate closed off to Jewish settlement(borders of Palestine according to mandate document also left it up to mandatory power Britain to decide borders of mandate).
    "Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; "
    avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp

    Regardless it doesn't matter as mandate has no legal relevance since Palestine mandate has been over since 1948.
    http://www.jpost.com/Features/In-Thespotlight/This-Week-in-History-The-British-Mandate-for-Palestine
     
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    this has been well discredited... your dream is a fallacy..

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    well.. lets pray the whole ME is soon called Israel...

    the only hate being shown is your post..
     
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    is this Netanyahu's ultimate goal?

    Greater Yisrael?
     

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