Subsaharan African Average IQ - a global, undeniable phenomenon

We have this little thing called The Bill of Rights that protects individuals from democracy and over-zealous arithmetic hounds.

Averages matter to statisticians, not the law.

 

The links speak for themselves, there's no need for discussion.

 

Let's review:

I'm unclear how science advances if, although you are able to state an observation ("You can say something like there is a racial disparity between white and black people."), you cannot then advance a hypothesis or test a theory on the why of your observation. Under your view, science is just a collection of interesting anecdotes that we cannot look into closely,

 

And if there is something in them worthy of discussion post it so it can be discussed.

 

Are you calling the person who posted the OP racist?

 

By his definitions/standards I am racist. And I am fine with that.

Leftists are the new stake burners of our era - their techniques I mentioned multiple times have no power here. Valueless peoples' (by the standards of people in the past, when life was much more difficult, and people didn't have the Luxury of being as petty as modern Leftists are) opinions don't matter.

 

What neighborhood are you in where you are unable to use your engineering skills? Perhaps you should move? I know several people who have graduated with engineering degrees in the past five or so years, and they are making at least $50K, and some are making $100K plus. Hell, most trade school graduates make from $20 to $50 per hour, depending on their geographical location and trade. If you can't make more than $15 an hour, perhaps you should look for a career change?

 

That condescension toward mobile home owners is telling as well. I knew a future company president saving bucks for building his dream house by living in a single-wide. Across from him was a 3.85-GPA mother of two working full-time and putting herself through a very, very tough college program.

Yeah. Condescension. How dare they not spend $800 a month at some gated condo, protected from the real world.

 

Minor quibble with that, since Windoze is also notorious bloatware. Easy in programming is NOT elegant and brief. /quibble

 

Good question. No - I can't quantify that and frankly, this should be something studied more for a better understanding (for obvious reasons, it's a no-touch subject though, much to our detriment in terms of knowledge attainment).

What the OP point is is:

a. there's a 30 point gap between Subsaharan africans and your average perrson in the world
b. Second/third generation african immigrants have about a 15-20 point gap - this is on an international basis and is consistent across countries

Point of (a) being that's a huge gap - you can be an elitist snob about the gap or you can recognize it for what it is. But 30 points can't be covered by education standards imo - and point b indicates as much because, unless you believe in *literally globalized systemic racism* then why is that 30 point gap not being covered, on average, in at least countries outside the United States.

The above indicates there are indeed genetic factors here in addition to cultural factors. I won't comment on implications in my response to you other than to say that it doesn't help that African Americans (in the inner cities) very clearly tend to have a victim mentality (culturual factor) which compounds a genetic/naturalized issue already present.

Also that I don't follow Krane's petty definition of racism (yes it might be the dictionary definition but that's not how words actually function in the real world, there are implications to the same words in different scenarios etc.) - i.e. acknowledging fairly obvious realities in what is admittedly *technically* a very subjective world (the world of ideas/beliefs) isn't big bad nasty racism. We could play the circle game on the subjective 'genetics vs. culture' topic infinitely - it doesn't make the above conclusion (which is reasonable) invalid IMO

 

True, but I was thinking moreso along the lines of Lakatos. I like his idea of paradigms more than Kuhn. I like to think of Kuhn as a

Alright I see what happened, my mistake. I misread your post. My apologies.

Pretty much.

I didn't write this, but I can safely say you can only work if your job is in demand. There are lots of conditions where your job might have been highly valued, but no longer is in demand.

 

REGURGITATION of the same DEBUNKED fallacies does not make them any less FALLACIOUS.

 

That's cute.

1. Don't be such an emote - there's no need for capitalizing your letters like a wee baby who wants to yell over others.

2. Find some new terms - you repeat the same exact phrases in every thread lmao

 

So you are calling your Traitor-in-Chief an "emoting wee baby who wants to yell over others"?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281206354334625793?cxt=HHwWgICwpcfC48cjAAAA

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1280861869507567616?cxt=HHwWgMC8zazKxMYjAAAA

Your abject FAILURE to substantiate your DEBUNKED drivel by resorting to puerile ad homs only harms your own credibility.

 

Are you really rolling on the floor laughing, or are you doing one of those weird awkward/creepy smiles/laughs people do when they're frustrated

 

My main surprise of that list is that the average is pretty high. Even the lowest ranked state, Mississippi, lists an average IQ of 94.2.

 

$800 a month? That sounds pretty good unless you are just talking about association fees.

 

The Bell Curve did not mention any specific IQ-linked gene frequencies in different populations. It just made a hand-waving argument that IQ differences between populations are largely genetic. Maybe they are: we know IQ differences between individuals in any given population are largely genetic. But I still haven't seen the data showing that specific IQ-linked genes have frequencies that are different enough in different populations to explain the population IQ differences.

Funny how the superior Judeo-Christian ethic did not produce the immense cultural achievements of classical Greek and Roman civilization, but did produce the Dark Ages. Funny how the superior Judeo-Christian ethic did not lead to freedom or the advancement of all people until after the atheistic Enlightenment decisively broke the Christian religion's intellectual monopoly in Europe.

Their Enlightenment-based, secular societies secure their individual rights for them. Makes it a lot easier.

 

Frankly I expect lower, like around 90.

 

The genetic heritability of IQ and certain other personality traits is well established WITHIN populations, but not BETWEEN them. That's why the specific IQ-linked genes have to be identified, and differences in their frequency between populations determined statistically, before such an argument can be scientifically sound.