Sundance Channel Developing show about a very confused person

http://www.advocate.com/politics/tr...sundance-channel-developing-transgender-drama

from the article

little else is known about T except that it centers on a transgender man following gender reassigment surgery, who was previously a lesbian activist at Massachusetts's Mt. Holyoke College in the 2000s.

so, if I read this correctly

this person was once a lesbian female, went on to have an add-a-dick-to-me surgery and is now a heterosexual male.

So, if that is in fact the path taken, isn't this person now tossed out into the 96.8% of the population which has opposite sex sexual relations?

So this goes beyond simple cross dressing as this person mutilated their body to become the opposite sex; if I'm reading this correctly

Who even watches the Sundance Channel and I bet the Nielsen ratings will be killer

 

this is not going to be on my watch list... I can promise.


I graduated with a lesbian, who became president of my university's GLBT association. She then got a boyfriend. uh oh... wait, I thought gay wasn't a choice. Well, no problem, she simply had a sex change to become a male and stayed with her boyfriend.

Cliffnotes - she got a sex change to become gay.

 

this is where I get confused

If you are a lesbian, get a sex change to male, and stay with women, aren't you then heterosexual?

 

You're missing a big piece of the puzzle here.

Most individuals who have sex change operations already viewed themselves as the sex they changed to.

So a female, having surgery to become a male, already viewed herself as male. So if she was attracted to women, she viewed herself as heterosexual male already.

If its reversed, a female having surgery to become a male, sexually attracted to men, she viewed herself as a homosexual male.

The orientation doesn't change, the gender of the individual does.

 

It's funny how many times one has to explain this to those who feign ignorance over it. It's like they intentionally refuse to understand transsexuals yet still come around to discuss/debate it. Why bother if you'll constantly refuse to comprehend the nature of trans people? Now that is something I will truly never understand.

 

So, if my walls were white, and I painted them green, are they still white despite having been painted?

If I have a broken leg, get it fixed, is it still broken?

If someone wants to be converted from a female to a male so they can inject women are they then not heterosexual?

 

If your talking about sexuality, and you bring up painting, are you missing the forest for the trees?

 

not at all

I understand that your small group needs to keep as many within the fold as possible but, if a woman has a penis installed on her, and then goes after women, she is now engaging in heterosexual sex, thus out of your group.

 

Mmhmm.

I think you're missing the point here.

This isn't an issue about "groups" or "keeping people" in groups.

The piece your missing is that woman already viewed herself as a heterosexual man. The sex change surgery only changed the gender of that woman, not her orientation.

 

it doesn't matter how many parts you add or take away from Mr. Potato head..... he's still a potato

 

you are speaking in circles

through surgery we now have a male

that male engages in sex with females

that's heterosexual sex and thus out of your group

 

You're either being intentionally ignorant or you really aren't grasping the issues.

Either way, if you can't figure it out, I have doubts that you could think your way out of a wet paper bag.

 

I'm going with intentionally ignorant. The guy oversimplifies everything and can't grasp homosexuality as being anything more than about guys boning eachother. Pointless like so many others here.

 

The reason this forum doesn't work as a reasonable place for discussion is because it generally only attracts two kinds of people: LGBTs and those who are usually VERY anti-gay or so stuck in their anti-SSM views that they aren't ever going to budge - and in fact as Perriquine pointed out only makes them more and more partisan. Hearts and minds are being won all over American but they will quite possibly have those views until the day they die. Totally pointless.. and I remember now why I left this board for a while.

 

then please enlighten the ignorant

do you put your pants on differently?

Do you bleed a different color blood?

other than how you have sex, how are you any different?

 

sec, what is your problem with people being different even in one portion of their life? Why does it bother you so much?

 

I don't consider myself any different to a heterosexual person really... but I would like to be able to marry the person I love. That's it really.

 

that's because you're not. If you are the best darn pediatrician in the area then I want you to look at my kids. I'm not coming to you because you're gay or hetero.

 

doesn't bother me at all. Maybe I like doing it while hanging from a trapeze and you enjoy doing it with same sex partners while watching old tv re-runs.

In the end, does it matter how any of us have sex as long as the partner consents and is of legal age?

To the point of the topic. Once the person has a sex change, and then has sex with the opposite sex is not the person now heterosexual? So, why is the incorrect label placed upon the person?

 

I dunno man, it seems to really bother you since you're always bringing up how people like to 'diddle' one another. If all you think about is how gay people 'diddle' with one another when someone mentions LGBT or homosexuals then you must have some serious issues, because quite frankly the whole LGBT movement pushing for equality is not about sex and how they have sex and how they just want to shove it in your face and make you watch. It's about ending discrimination towards openly lesbian, gay, bi and trans people.

I think you are misunderstanding why the LGBT tag includes trans people, which by the way is not just transsexuals but also includes transgenders and transvestites. It's because most everyone in this group goes against social gender norms or rather the gender binary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_binary. They are all going outside of what society expects them to behave or be like based on whether they have a penis or a vagina.

Kate Bonrnstein explains really well why trans is included in the LGBT tag.

 

that's not it.... you don't want equality, you want equality +1.

You have civil unions that give you all the same rights as marraige, but that's not good enough. And if we cave to marraige, it'll be something else you think you are being victimized over.

History has shown great civilizations have fallen shortly after the pro-gay movement takes hold. The US is no different. While it will suck that the country I love has to fall for my next point to be proven, history has also shown, that gays will be forced back into closets again and again in the future, just like they have been in the past, time and time again.

 

Absurd to argue one is born with their sexual orientation but that gender is variable.

 

lol.... never thought of it like that. I guess whatever's convenient to the agenda....

 

Uh-oh. Someone doesn't understand the difference between gender and sex.

 

please make up whatever definition you find convenient....