Post 173 where you talk to yourself is hilarious... And your "all or nothing" attitude towards your Ten Commandments is really VERY narrow minded..... you think because I don't use YOUR Ten Commandments that I run around murdering and coveting my neighbor's wife....well, lots of people who don't believe in carved tablets behave themselves and lots behave better than those who NEEDED Rules Carved in Stone to get their attention or they wouldn't behave at all...
The rules carved in stone as you put it were carved their to show that the goodness of mankind can never measure up to Holiness or Perfection. You see, those that look to God understand He is Holy. It is a very high standard to aspire to. You are to busy slapping your knees and mocking to ever get serious it seems. We aspire to Holiness but at the same time acknowledge we fail miserably. We understand we need Salvation from our human weakness. The 10 Commandments makes us aware of the futility of our own goodness. It seems you revel in what you feel is your own goodness. You don't need any outside source to guide you because you feel you are inherently good. Well it may be best for me to leave you to your own imagination.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Post 173 where you talk to yourself is hilarious... And your "all or nothing" attitude towards your Ten Commandments is really VERY narrow minded..... you think because I don't use YOUR Ten Commandments that I run around murdering and coveting my neighbor's wife....well, lots of people who don't believe in carved tablets behave themselves and lots behave better than those who NEEDED Rules Carved in Stone to get their attention or they wouldn't behave at all... So goodness is futile? Really?! Oh, and if you admit you fail do please tell all the Christians "Excusers. You know, those hypocrites who claim if a Christian does something bad then they aren't really Christians so chrsitians never do anything bad... HILARIOUS! Well, ya pulled that out of some dark orifice of confusion and jealousy because I never said that... But I feel really bad for people who think reveling in goodness is a character flaw... What an odd statement considering my post were based on facts and what was posted and yours were based on imagination and fantasy (AKA lies about what I posted)
if you so much as look at a women with lust in your heart you have failed. If you so much as call a person "empty head" you have committed murder. Jesus showed us the standards of Holiness are far higher than we can imagine. That is why we need salvation by grace. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Yes...it's just not me. Every one of us are in the same boat. Some just keep the standards low for their carnal and temporal existence.
` I haven't gone to regular Sunday church since I was 13. I didn't raise my daughters in any religious fashion so they never went either. `
so your saying all Christians break the ten commandments all the time them and that is to be expected?
I don't attend church services except when asked by friends to participate in theirs, as a courtesy and respect for them. I'm am not a Christian myself, but I certainly fully understand its history and massive benefits to modern civilization, given what the alternatives were and what pagans really are, and I fully understand the irony of all the blathering the idiots who hate Xians and their insipid sniveling and ludicrous proclamations of being 'rationalists n stuff' indulge in, mainly exercising the very freedoms brought about by the influences evolving out of Christianity as a social and intellectual revolution, and note that the neo-pagans of today are still huge fans of human sacrifice and mystic chanting, under the guise of fake 'science' and 'constructionist humanism', i.e. just regressive cultists devoted to mindless self-indulgence and normalizing sociopathic behaviors and assorted neuroses and fetishes. How many know separation of church and state is itself a Christian invention, via those evul Baptists and their crazy belief in free will being one of their three main founding tenets? Why else would Thomas Jefferson worry over their support otherwise? See Thomas Helwys for his martyrdom on keeping govt. out of churches. It was those 'crazy Evangelicals' of the First and Second Great Awakenings who are largely responsible for moderating the Federalists at the 1787 Constitutional Convention, out of their fear of offending them, and of course they voted for Jefferson almost to a man, and got him elected President. Even the concept of our organization of the separation of powers between three branches of govt. originates from the Old Testament, as does such radical craziness as freedom of speech and many other concepts, and no, the so-called 'enlightenment' sophists did not invent any of it, they just reworded old Christian tenets without acknowledgement all down the line. 'As we can see pretty much daily in the religion and philosophy forums, <<MOD EDIT - Rule 2 - Removed Insults to a Group>> Lee S and doesn't go beyond that, hence why serious intellectuals have no real complaints about Christianity, and respect its internal consistency and intellectual sophistication compared to the alternative rubbish. It has all the right enemies. It isn't just mere 'coincidence' most avidly 'atheist' states ban free speech and Christianity at the first opportunity, see the Soviet Union, Mao, and every other example in history of the type of 'intellectualism' atheist states promote, along with their death tolls and Gulags, and its no different with what the ludicrously mis-named ' 'progressives' have in store for most Americans when they can finally seize power and persecute those Evul Xians and drive them into prisons and camps like their hero commies did. They already censure history books and indoctrinate children with all sorts of mindlessly stupid social engineering fads now as it is.
If you are a human being it is to be expected. We ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Now what we "aspire" to.... that is a different story. There are mockers that actually walk in sin. Christians don't do that. When a Christian realizes he/she has fallen into a sin, he feels very bad about it. Most unbelievers would say something like "well I haven't killed anybody and I AM a good person". Just to take this a step farther.... I have a bone to pick with Catholicism. They have a doctrine. I'll call it "degrees of sin". Some sins are forgiven merely by saying a bunch of hail Mary's. Some sins just require confession to a Priest. The scripture says all sin is the same (spiritually speaking) There is only One who forgives sin and we must go to Him repeatedly. It keeps us humble. Now I do of course recognize that our earthly institutions have to have degrees of punishment to mete out what is merited. That goes more to the verse "what a man sows, that will he reap". However, if one desires to fellowship with the Creator of all things for eternity, he needs to understand what a Holy God requires. That is why we have ten commandments. It helps us understand what is not Holy. It makes us aware we need a Savior.
