Supporting the "Do Nothing" Congress

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  1. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Today it appears if the budget "super committee" is doomed to fail to present a proposal to trim the federal budget by $1.2 trillion over ten years. That's a mere $120 billion per year out of a federal budget that has ballooned to over $3 trillion annually or less than a 1/2% reduction in spending.

    I'm actually going to come out in favor of Congress doing absolutely nothing!!

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/daniel-gross/superfail-why-d-c-fiscal-clown-show-may-133350281.html

    Combined this will result in about $7 trillion in revenues which is almost 6-times better than what the Super Committee was delegated to find in addressing the budget deficits.

    Yes, it has it's pitfalls as all of us will be paying more in taxes. It also means that if doctors are not reimbursed with supplemental payments that they won't see Medicare/Medicaid patients but those individuals will still have government "insurance" so the Democrats will be pleased (even if they aren't actually treated). And $1.2 trillion in spending cuts will be includes so while not much it's better than anything Congress has really done in the last few years.

    I suggest that we all write to our members of Congress and urge them to vote against everything.

    It's time for Congress to assume the oath of physicians which is "First, do no harm" and they can do that best by doing nothing.
     
  2. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. My preference is for them to take 365 day holidays. The less they do on the hill, the less of our money they waste.
     
  3. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    congress doing nothing means our president gets lower approval ratings and that is not acceptable, we need more work being done as was done in 2008 with all 3 branches with democrats.

    its not a good idea for people to keep their medicaid and medicare without having any doctors that are willing to accept them without supplemental payments

    if democrats could force doctors to be charitable as they do with everyone regarding welfare and accept lower payments but still be held liable to the highest standard of care without discrimination based on income this will help alot
     
  4. Political Ed

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    Me thinks you're in the wrong country if you want an unbiased system that treats rich like poor. Baby steps, let's get a few small things done and feel good about it. Let's keep our Obamacare, Medicare, etc.

    I'm a Dem, but remember, sociopth der fuhrer Bush spent his whole forst term on teh Overtime Bill passing to law, which it did due to a few sellout Dems who were supposedly our friends. Ted Kennedy and Hillary stuck string, but some turds fell out.
     
  5. fmw

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    Not from me. I would give him the highest possible ratings if he would stop doing things.
     
  6. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting.

    In my fine opinion, the stalemate that triggered the cuts was calculated.

    Each side got to blame the other for their lack of action, pandering to their own supporters. it appears that neither side would yield in the slightest, and both sides ended up getting their programs that they wanted to cut anyway.
     
  7. indo

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    Firstly I want to say that im not an english native speaker. So i want to appologize myself if I make any mistakes. I would appreciate it that you correct me if I make any mistakes...

    I would like to give a short opinion about the tax system. I live in Holland and we have progressive tax rates. That contains that the rich people take care of the poor people.

    In holland we collect taxes. Because of that we can finance communal facilities like education, conventional rail and of course to finance our care sector. Taxes could also lead to a more fair income inequality metrics. That's importent because a very low income leads only to more criminality etc.

    I dont understand why you people in the USA dont follow our dutch progressive system? Look at your country and see what the conservative people have reached...
     
  8. Political Ed

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    Oh yea, and you don't even have the best distribution of wealth, Scandinavia does, Sweeden particularly. America is a mess, and the perplexing part is that enough rich get the poor to buy into this concept that if you make the rich even more filthy rich that they will voluntarily take care of us. This, of course, isn't true. We have the dumbest, most naive underclass in the world. But of course when you groom them from age 5 to chant the Pledge of Allegiance to do whatever your country wants then you tend to lose your ability to think.
     
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    is that there should a law to never have a R-R-R or D-D-D (Senate-Congress-Presidency). The stalemate situation of today is necessary to resolve the evils from 2009-2010 in the USA. Hopefully, Congress will keep their backbone to see if the 2012 election yields possibility or collapse.
     
  10. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Population-wise, Holland is about the size of the state of Florida. When we have an example of a country with a population over 300 million that has a fair tax system, we'll be talking the same language. ;)

    On-topic, I think one reason we have a do-nothing congress is because we have a do-nothing president. Obama is responsible for leading... something he knows absolutely nothing about.
     
  11. Political Ed

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    How about the evils of GWB's first 6 years, or is that R monopoly ok with you? I guess taking an awesome economy and turning into the worst mess in 80 years while hammering the debt 4.9T is alright.
     
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    Dodd-Frank-Clinton. Bush was playing Doom with a bunch of Arabs from 2001-2008. The economic impact of Bush to the housing crisis of Dodd-Frank-Clinton is small even today after 10 years and that includes nearly 3 years of Obama complicity and expansion. Read your news.
     
  13. Political Ed

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    Why does that matter? It's about rate and population density over gross population. Hell, China is doing a lot better with a higher population density and is tehbiggest creditor in the world. Japan has a huge population density and does well. If you have fewer people producing goods/svs, then your GDP is lower so that's an advantage. So fewer peole to provide for and fewer people providing; rate is the key.


    So bringing in the Children's Healthcare Bill to law was do nothing? Bringing HC to adults was do nothing? Curbing GWB's unemployment mess that increased 3% in his last year was do nothing? Ending the worst GDP slide since teh Great Depression was do nothing?

    Elaborate why Obama is do nothing.
     

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