Supreme Court Rejects Gay Marriage Appeals From 5 States

Exactly.

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No the STATES have not allowed it... the courts have done so. And one decision by the supreme court would strike them all down.

 

More tyranny from the corts!

 

I am a straight heterosexual male and I am getting real sick and tired of all of this. I plain do not care if gays get married or not. Marriage is a civil contract and should not be anyone else's concern. We have much bigger problems to worry about. It seems like a lot of people on both sides need some adult supervision.

 

Really? Both sides? I'd say the issue is pretty clear cut. Gay marriage harms NO ONE. The only side turning it into a bigger issue than it needs to be is the far-right. Not even Republicans are against gay marriage anymore.

 

Ok, then let's get this legalized and done with. Deal?

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Not going to happen, but do keep dreaming. They denied to hear the appeals.

 

It doesn't matter who "allowed" it, it doesn't change the fact that a vote to uphold SSM bans by the Supreme Court will be a vote to 'overturn' thousands of marriages. It would be unprecedented.

 

Sure...plus the Social Cons aren't going anywhere. The GOP can still throw out "abortion" to them...if needed.

Though even that isn't really needed, since the Social Cons are the GOP's bi'ach. Boehner, McConnell, Priebus, et al. know it......hell, a few of the Social Cons have figured it out and are playing "submissive" because they got nowhere else to go.

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So WHEN exactly do you expect the Supreme Court to do that....and annul 1000s of marriages???

 

This is a little nit-pickey but the above isn't precisely right. A District Court ruled it Unconstitutional. It was appealed to the 9th Circuit by a group ultimately found to not have Standing. The 9th sent it to SCOTUS, who kicked it back to them saying they never have accepted the Appeal in the first place and to dismiss it. They did, the District Court's ruling stands unappealed, and likely will never be. Legally (again, I'm picking nits) it's as though the appeal never existed.

 

All of the states in the Circuit districts will be bound by the decisions of those courts. I think that today's action removes the stays and will extend SSM from the current 19 to 31 states. Since they didn't decide, the states in districts where litigation is ongoing, are not effected.

 

Fine by me. Far as I am concerned it is legal now. Two party's or more can legally enter into a civil contract.

 

Scratch this opinion. Tired of argument. I have no further opinion.

 

Yea I have a very liberal stance on abortion as well.

 

Actually they wouldn't be voting on upholding any bans. They would be voting on whether or not it is a State or Federal issue. The State's would then determine that issue by vote... as it should be.

As far as it being unprecedented, allowing homosexual marriage was unprecedented as well... what's your point?

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I have no idea but I do know that it is an inevitability that the issue must be decided. And considering that nowhere in the constitution does it provide the federal government the right to regulate marriage over the States... I'm confident that the conservative Supreme Court... especially Kennedy who is staunchly in favor of State's rights over federal gov rights... the vote will be in favor of State's rights.

 

You have the making of a REAL libertarian, AS. Not these phoney libertarians who the same ol' rightwingers just trying to be holier-than-thou.

BTW, on the day the last marriage ban is repealed?....look for all those who screamed and ranted about how gay marriage would "destroy marriage" and "cause America's collapse like the Roman Empire".....to suddenly.....amazingly.....magically....

become apathetic and say "Who cares? Big deal. Never bothered me one way or the other."


Aesop's "The Fox & The Grapes"....remember it?

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It doesn't???? Well, perhaps you've never heard of Loving v. Virginia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia

 

Actually, it's not necessarily inevitable that SCOTUS will have to get involved. 4 Appellate courts have already ruled the decisions declaring banning same sex marriage as Unconstitutional were correctly decided. If the other 6 do as well, there being no dissent may mean SCOTUS never even takes a case. I'm not predicting all 10 will go the same way, I am nowhere near possessing enough information to have an opinion on that, merely pointing out that if it DOES...

 

I have, perhaps you have never heard of protected classes? Of which race is one and sexual orientation is not.

Furthermore Loving v Virginia was referenced in the DOMA decision but ONLY to say this: "State laws defining and regulating marriage, of course, must respect the constitutional rights of persons, see, e.g., Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967); but, subject to those guarantees, “regulation of domestic relations” is “an area that has log been regarded as a virtually exclusive province of the States.” Sosna v. Iowa, 416 U.S. 393, 404 (1975)."

If it becomes an issue of State v Federal Rights the conservative Supreme Court, including Kennedy, will vote in favor of State rights.

 

Not what you CLAIMED....you claimed "nowhere in the constitution does it provide the federal government the right to regulate marriage over the States..."


If true, then Loving v Virginia would be an un-Constitutional ruling......was it?


BTW, Kennedy was supposed to help you guys overturn Roe v. Wade, too....remember?

 

Keep telling yourself that

 

Lol yea they probably will. I'm actually not libertarian, I'm a right-leaning centrist, which in contrast, isn't much different. My views on foreign policy and a few domestic policies are what stop me from being too libertarian. I'm just a dude caught in the middle.

 

Keep telling yourself that

 

Oops. Just can't stop yourself, can you?

 

The government granteyh rights and the government taketh away rights. To think otherwise is naive

 

Well, only Siths talk in absolutes.

This "issue" is going to be gone in 5 years...or less. Only THE most obsessive and borderline mentally disturbed homophobes will even show any interest in it then. (No names needed).

The rest will have "moved on" and feigned apathy.

Look for a MARRIED gay Republican office-holder before the year 2020. At that point, even Rick Santorum will have given up.

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And Dubya never recinded Clinton's EO.

Know why?

Because it would have been a slap in the face to the DAUGHTER...of HIS OWN VICE-PRESIDENT.

 

ITs only a protected class for Federal employment................

 

This is amazing. As of today, same-sex marriage is officially legally in 25 states plus DC (the 5 states that had the appeals dismissed, in addition to Colorado). Soon it will be legal in 5 more states that are in the same federal circuit as the dismissed cases (Colorado was one of these, but decided to lift the bans immediately rather than wait to be told to do so, which would have been inevitable).

The writing is clearly on the wall. The likelihood of the Supreme Court letting 3 circuit court decisions stand, then later overturning them and invalidating all the marriages it allowed is incredibly slim. The other states should stop wasting taxpayer money on appeals and just remove their bigoted laws already.