Supreme Court rejects Texas appeal over voter ID law

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  1. Nordic Democrat

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    I base that on actual journalism, not corporate propaganda. I also include CNN and NBC on that list as well.
     
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    Fine. You can't write because you're dyslexic. What's your excuse for everything else? Like the immature racism?
     
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    we have not had a liberal sc for years, 5 conservative and 4 liberals....
     
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    Since this is a thread on voter ID law

    Obama’s Final Whopper as President

    President Obama is known for telling some whoppers — “If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it” is perhaps the most infamous – so it shouldn’t surprise anyone that he told a final one as president right before leaving office last week. At his final press conference, Obama promised that he would continue to fight voter-ID laws and other measures designed to improve voting integrity. The U.S. is “the only country among advanced democracies that makes it harder to vote,” he claimed. “It traces directly back to Jim Crow and the legacy of slavery, and it became sort of acceptable to restrict the franchise. . . . This whole notion of election-voting fraud, this is something that has constantly been disproved. This is fake news.”

    The argument over whether or not there is voter fraud will rage on, in part because the Obama administration has spent eight years blocking states from gaining access to federal lists of non-citizen and other possibly illegal voters. Even so, there is abundant evidence that voter fraud is easy to commit. The Heritage Foundation’s website contains hundreds of recent examples of people convicted of stealing votes.

    But Obama’s first statement, that the U.S. is unique in trying to enforce ballot integrity, is demonstrably false. All industrialized democracies — and most that are not — require voters to prove their identity before voting. Britain was a holdout, but last month it announced that persistent examples of voter fraud will require officials to see passports or other documentation from voters in areas prone to corruption.

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    And if Obama knew much about geography, he might notice that our neighbors require voter ID. Canada adopted voter-ID requirements in 2007 and saw them reaffirmed in 2010; they have worked smoothly since, with almost no complaints. Mexico’s “Credencial para Votar” has a hologram, a photo, and other information embedded in it, and it is impossible to effectively tamper with it. “Mexico’s paper ballots have a level of sophistication equivalent to legal tender,”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444106/obama-lies-voter-id-many-countries-require-it
     
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    But you'll trust CNN or NBC, won'Tcha smartie pants🙄


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    You forgot the main argument:

    Without a valid form of photo ID you can't open a bank account, drive a car, rent a house, or do ANYTHING that adults do in life.

    There is no valid reason not to expect people to have valid ID. Hell, in a lot of cases you need TWO forms of photo ID.
     
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    I have no problem with proving citizenship in order to Register to vote in fact that shoukd be a universal requirement.
     
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    one thing to note regarding Canadian Voter ID, is that their are many many forms of acceptable ID. As long asI have something with my picture and name on it, and a piece of mail (govt, or utilities) with my address on it, that's good enough.

    Also if I don't have ID, a roomate can vouch for me.
     
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    Yes, obviously Canada's system traces directly back to Jim Crow and the legacy of slavery.

    Identification requirements – Options to Prove Identity and Residence

    According to sections 143(2)(a) and (b) and 143(3) of the Act, electors are required to provide documentary evidence of both their name and their address to register and to cast a ballot at a polling station. The Act provides three options to this end.

    Section 143(2) and (3) of the Canada Elections Act

    143. (2) If the poll clerk determines that the elector's name and address appear on the list of electors or that the elector is allowed to vote under section 146, 147, 148 or 149, then, subject to subsection (3), the elector shall provide to the deputy returning officer and the poll clerk the following proof of his or her identity and residence:

    (a) one piece of identification issued by a Canadian government, whether federal, provincial or local, or an agency of that government, that contains a photograph of the elector and his or her name and address; or
    (b) two pieces of identification of a type authorized under subsection (2.1), each of which establishes the elector's name and at least one of which establishes the elector's address.
    (2.1) The Chief Electoral Officer may authorize types of identification for the purposes of paragraph (2)(b). For greater certainty, any document – other than a notice of confirmation of registration sent under section 95 or 102 – regardless of who issued the document, may be authorized.

    (3) An elector who proves his or her identity by providing two pieces of identification of a type authorized under subsection (2.1) that establish the elector's name may instead prove his or her residence by taking an oath in writing in the prescribed form – the form including the statement that he or she has received the oral advice set out in subsection 143.1(1) – if he or she is accompanied by another elector whose name appears on the list of electors for the same polling division who

    (a) proves their own identity and residence to the deputy returning officer and poll clerk by providing the piece or pieces of identification referred to in paragraph (2)(a) or (b), respectively; and
    (b) attests to the elector's residence on oath in writing in the prescribed form, the form including the statements that
    (i) they have received the oral advice set out in subsection 143.1(2),
    (ii) they know the elector personally,
    (iii) they know that the elector resides in the polling division,
    (iv) they have not attested to the residence of another elector at the election, and
    (v) their own residence has not been attested to by another elector at the election.


    http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=poli/rep1&document=index&lang=e


    btw, spent some time up in your area 20 some years ago (Calgary, Red Deer, Edmonton, Banff ) loved the area!
     
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    yeah they are to busy getting high on drugs and selling drugs on the streets or buying ripple at the liquor store [​IMG] and watching imagination video games. :roll:
     
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    I can't imagine how sad things are for you that you're so jaded about people you don't understand.
     
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    I'm seriously not trying to bash people or anything like that. But how in the hell do people function in life without an ID? It's 2017...

    Perhaps I am just ignorant because I've never not had an ID. In fact it wasn't until this whole thing about voter fraud came about that I realized there were people out there who didn't have ID's. Every time I've voted I simply showed my ID, and this is a testament to my own ignorance on the subject because I honestly thought you had to do that everywhere. I never realized you don't have to do that and never thought twice about it until I started reading about the whole voter ID controversy.

    But I mean seriously, how the hell do people function in 2017 society without an ID card? How do you get money? How do you cash a check? How do you buy beer? How do you do anything?

    People are saying it will cause an undue hardship on folks without ID's if we started making them a voting requirement. I'm pretty sure modern society in itself is an undue hardship if you don't have an ID. I've probably pulled my ID card out about 20 times in the past week for something or another. I'm seriously in my head trying to figure out how people walk around society and do anything without an ID card in the first place. What happens if you get stopped by the cops and they ask for an ID and you don't have one? Do they take you in until they figure out who you are or something? These are little things that I've never actually thought about before because I sort of figured that everybody had some sort of ID card. Shows how much I know....
     
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    But.......but.......racism.
     

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