Supreme Court rules in favor of same-sex marriage nationwide

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. Most Christians gave up the right to play the religious freedom card you are trying to play when they started supporting wars where they KNEW children would be murdered as a consequence of collateral damage. What's the NUMBER 1 sin - Thou shall not murder. So for them now to wail and gnash their teeth over having to bake a cake is an asinine argument.
     
  2. Flintc

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    What? That doesn't make any sense. No religion is illegal. Nobody is being persecuted. SOME bigots are willing to accept punishment rather than be tolerant, but they are in a tiny minority. Certainly 80% of the country is not composed of intolerant bigots, I doubt if it's more than a couple percent, and those people are either going to have to re-read their bibles, or face fines.

    And why the fixation on sex? Sounds like someone has a personal problem.
     
  3. The Mello Guy

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    So why let Alaskans marry if they are gonna do it anyway?
     
  4. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Your comical definition of persecution means nothing to anyone. You seem to be managing just fine.
     
  5. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    You have it backwards. All things should be legal by default. The burden is on the GOVERNMENT to have a compelling reason to not let me do something. Not the other way around.

    The government is not your parent.


    Gee, you don't say.

    Well I guess that means that marriage must be about more than just sex, eh?
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    Yes I am applying a double standard. But it was so much more fun when gays were in the closet.
     
  7. Flintc

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    For you, I'm not surprised. But trust me, not everyone enjoys it so much when minorities know their place and don't get uppity.
     
  8. Daniel Light

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    Gay people have revitalized two major sections of the Miami area. They run multimillion dollar companies that hire thousands of people.
    Gay people bring millions into the economy.
    If you aren't contributing more from your basement, then get out of their way, because the rest of us have no trouble with them.
     
  9. PatriotNews

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    No, islamic theocracies do not share my attitudes.

    Just exactly how does acceptance of private sexual behavior of homosexuals make you more enlightened?
     
  10. PatriotNews

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    You whine a cry all you want. Real men don't. We have a First Amendment right to freedom of religion and freedom of speech. We don't have to keep our religion to ourselves. We are here to spread the good word. Gay people need to repent.

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    So Christians don't have the right to freedom of religion and freedom of speech because the country went to war? Where is that in the Constitution?
     
  11. Daniel Light

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    So Americans who support gay rights aren't also covered by the 1st Amendment? Churches that support the rights of gays to marry and hold service for gay weddings aren't to be accorded their rights? Is your religion more special than theirs?
     
  12. Daniel Light

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    I thought you said your religious views were more important than the laws of the land. Isn't "Thou shall not murder," the first Commandment. Isn't the death of an innocent child during armed conflict murder? Or are you just going to rationalize the commandments and parts of the Bible that are convenient for your world view.
     
  13. PatriotNews

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    So if a religion doesn't believe in gay marriage they are the bigots? If they believe homosexuality they are the bigots? Way to turn the definition of bigotry on it's head.

    Why the fixation on trying to imply I have a personal problem? Personal attacks are not allowed. You should steer clear of the insults.

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    Why let anybody marry? The word is meaningless.

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    Yes it's all very funny 'til somebody loses an eye and the church is confiscated for civil rights violations of homosexuals.
     
  14. Daniel Light

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    Now that is the argument of a 13 year old. There is not a Academy Award for most drama in a post.
     
  15. PatriotNews

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    Well not according to this Supreme Court. Rights are delegated by them to the states. The burden on the Supreme Court is to uphold the Constitution which they have failed to do 2 days in a row.

    The government is your parent. They can tell you what kind of furniture you can buy, what kind of car you can drive, what kind of light bulb you can buy, what kind of health insurance you are allowed to buy, what is in your make up or in your toothpaste, how much you should eat, what kind of gas you can buy, how much you must pay in sales taxes everyday, how much water you can use when you flush, and on and on and on...

    Now who is overly curious about sex?
     
  16. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    ...according to some guy on the internet.

    Unfortunately, our political system does not recognize the authority of random guys on the internet.

    If you believe the government should be your parent, that is a much bigger problem than the gay marriage issue.
     
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    You do not share their discriminatory attitude regarding same sex marriage contracts? You seem to have indicated that you prefer their prohibition to the equality of advanced nations.

    Why are you so obsessed with the private sexual behaviour of other people?

    What does your preoccupation with it have to do with gender discrimination in marriage contracts?
     
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    I often wonder about that too. People do get married for reasons other than sex.
     
  19. Flintc

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    Not at all. I don't believe in religion. But I don't go around hassling religioius people.

    No, you don't understand. You can believe anything you want. Plenty of people here in Alabama sincerely believe the negroes are physically, intellectually, and morally inferior. But they aren't allowed to TREAT them that way.

    OK, then I'm curious. Sex plays exactly the same role in homosexual relationships as it does in heterosexual relationships, except without pregnancies. But you don't find people defending traditional marriage on the grounds that they can screw more of they're married! Sex is a normal part of any intimate adult relationship. I should think this goes without saying. So why do youi keep harping on it?

    Sigh. If there were no mistreatment by the religious, there would be no occasions of civil rights violations, and no need to create protected classes or higher scrutiny. Those things arose BECAUSE minority groups have been singled out for mistreatment, simply because they ARE minority groups.

    You seem to be arguing that OF COURSE your religion should be permitted to violate other peoples' civil rights. Your religious freedom DEMANDS that you violate peoples' rights. I should think if someone's civili rights are violated, you would side with the victim and not the perp.
     
  20. PatriotNews

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    And gay people have cost the taxpayer billions of dollars in research money for AIDS, treatments for AIDS patients, drugs for HIV positive patients, housing and disability and medical care for HIV and AIDS patients, hospitalization and hospice care, burial costs for AIDS patients, and and thousands of lives if those resources weren't being wasted on gays who if they had any self respect would not be performing promiscuous sex with strangers. Billions of dollars that could have been spent of people who had illnesses that were not self-inflicted.
     
  21. The Mello Guy

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    If it's meaningless then this is a lot of whining for nothing
     
  22. Daniel Light

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    And smokers have cost the US a thousand times that - yet we do not say that smokers can't marry. Hetrosexuals have left millions of children without proper financial support, costing the US ten thousand times what gay people have cost. Hetrosexual couples have caused billions to be spent in domestic disputes and child support.

    So what's your point again?
     
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    So when are you divorcing you wife then? I mean, since marriage is meaningless now.
     
  24. PatriotNews

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    Homosexuality is not mentioned in the Constitution. You have no special constitutional right if you are gay.

    Of course gays are going to set up their own fake churches because they aren't welcome in real churches until they repent from the sin of Homosexuality.
     
  25. The Mello Guy

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    You're rihjt it's not special. It's the same one everyone else has.
     

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