Syria(Ghouta) 'chemical' attack, is it the worst False flag operation in a history?

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and who is behind of this attack Assad or Wahhabits?

Poll closed Nov 29, 2013.
  1. Assad

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  2. Wahhabits

    72.9%
  1. USSR

    USSR New Member

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    Should also have the Obama Drone option,as well as the Good old boys of the CIA .Got Al-Qaeda affiliate ,so maybe the CIA, option is covered.
     
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    Well said. Keep up your good work.

    How can we common men stop WW3 when the destiny of this world lies in the hands of the "modern Zeus" and his other "Olympians on the new Mount Olympus"? They are sinking gradually into the stinking decadence of Sodom and Gomorrah. Furthermore, they appear keen to promote this anti-God or anti-Allah "value" worldwide.

    Twelve Olympians
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Olympians
     
  3. litwin

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    factors like timing and how fast develops this situation ,make it clear for everyone that it was somebody bigger (then just Chechen -Saudi - Pakistani, etc. scum ) behind of this attack ...
     
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    Thierry Meyssan
     
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    Obamas WMD in Syria is a big fat lie ...

    just like Bushs WMD in Iraq was a big fat lie ...

    Both wars are for oil ... arrest ALL the war criminals
     
  6. litwin

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    what do you think about Israel role?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23947354

    can Israel take a part in USA´s war coalition?
     
  7. Ivan88

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    They are already participating in the war against Syria, Iraq and Lebanon, and they helped start it.
     
  8. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    but, it was just a proxy war(s), new it can be a real one
     
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    How? Call your congressman and say "no".

    Each country of any 'common men'/women, has a leader that they can call to ask, "please dont"?

    Note the thread title, now ask youself, "if it is possible that it was not Assad that did it?" The risk of 'we the people' are on the wrong side and make a bad choice, is by far worse than just saving face.

    If i didnt leave myself open to being capable of both being 'wrong or right' then i would be failing the future, our children, and then myself.
    whatever.

    I like old stories to learn from. Like my suggestion on this thread, why follow the same old story.... Learning from them old 'stories'; dont act, before being honest with ourselves.
    What would an 'anti god' or lala on the matter, be relevant?

    You and I are discussing Assad didnt use the chem weapons on his own civilian population. With that in mind, right now a congressional meeting is occuring to kill people based on false witness of facts. I think that it will be wrong to fire into syria based on false information. I dont think my country men/women are doing their best to make sure before making a choice.

    So i point out information to assist.

    And sustain an 'against' for any war action on this matter. I am confident that 'America' can be wrong in that I think Obama is the only president that i know of during my lifetime, to be capable of accepting that responsibility that 'we the people' have observed enough information to overcome 'pride'.

    I dont see Assad using chemical weapons upon its own people and that the rebels could. The people of Syria love Assad and they are just like you and me, loving freedom. The rebels are not fighting for 'the people' or for a 'freedom' as the people are already living in a society of being capable and 'free' with all natural equality.




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  10. Monster Zero

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    Israel is not a neutral player, and it has nothing to do with Zionism. Israel is in it for the same reason other Western countires are involved. Oil pipeline profits. They are assisting in opposing the Shanghai Co-Op and aquiring gas/ oil for themselves, even from Af-Pak as well, which is why they help the U.S. in those wars.
     
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    Motive could be oil, or it could be those thousands of rockets that Hezbollah has that just slipped in over the decades. They have fired thousands of rockets into Israel. Let's picture Germany being slowly surrounded over decades by hidden rocket batteries all along the borders with France, and Poland, and receiving thousands of incoming rockets from these areas. Or choose any other country landlocked between 2 others. It would be ridiculous for Germany to not have an interest in the countries through which these weapons were bought, manufactured, and/or transported. As it is for Israel, those rockets are not being created anywhere near Israel, Palestinians, Hezbollah, or Hamas do not have weapons manufacturing plants. Israel would be fools to not be interested in anything besides the status quo in Syria, including regime change for Assad.
     
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    This seems to heve gone under the covers:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...l-approves-oil-drilling-in-Golan-Heights.html
    "This allows for oil exploration in a 153 square mile in the south of Golan Heights. Based on its preliminary analysis and interpretation of existing geological data, that the newly issued license area may contain significant quantities of conventional oil and gas"
     
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    That still doesn't outweigh the motive of getting rid of the rockets surrounding their country. Israel is interested in destroying these rockets, and preventing any more from being placed in an attack position on their country. Please try to picture the previous scenario in which another country besides Israel was surrounded by rockets produced and transported from other countries. In the Germany example, even if oil or other nat resources were discovered/contested in the region between France and Germany, that still wouldn't be the primary motive for military action by Germany; it would be the rockets.
     
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    America has a long hostory of funding terrorists and aiding them like in Syria and Libya,

    Bosnia, Kosovo, and Now Libya:
    The Human Costs of Washington’s On-Going Collusion with Terrorists


    by Peter Dale Scott


    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/aQcovertUSally.html

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    And it is also Well Documented that the Green Party and Anti-War Groups Are Infiltrated by the FBI and by the Democrat Party ...



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    "Peter Camejo, who ran for Governor of California in 2003 as a Green and as Ralph Nader’s vice president in 2004, often told the story about his 1976 presidential campaign. Camejo able to get the FBI in court after finding their offices broken into and suing them over COINTELPRO activities. The judge asked the Special Agent in Charge how many FBI agents worked in Camejo’s presidential campaign; the answer was 66 agents. Camejo estimated he had a campaign staff of about 400 across the country. Once again that would be an infiltration rate of 1 out of 6 people. Camejo discovered that among the agents was his campaign co-chair. He also discovered eavesdropping equipment in his campaign office and documents showing the FBI had followed him since he was a student activist at 18 years old.

    The federal infiltration is buttressed by local and state police. Local police infiltrators have a long tradition dating back to the Haymarket riots of 1886 and the 1904 “Italian Squad in New York City. In addition to political activity they were also involved in infiltrations of unions especially around strikes. Common throughout the United States were the so-called “Red Squads” a 1963 report estimated 300,000 officers were involved in surveillance of political activities. These were local police focused on the same types of people as the FBI. Some of their activities included assassinations of political activists."


    OCCUPY: Infiltration of Political Movements is the Norm, Not the Exception in the United States.

    http://globalresearch.ca/occupy-inf...-not-the-exception-in-the-united-states/29750

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    "When I did so, some of the organizers came up to me and started to argue. They stated that I should make this about the war. I replied that it was, as this was now Obama’s war. To which they replied that it was not Obama’s war. All of this was caught on tape and you tubed.

    We were asked to leave the protest march.

    In deepest irony, four months later, the organization that had organized this event were infiltrated by the FBI and have a number of them facing a Grand Jury investigation. Instituted by and authorized by the Obama Administration.

    For the record, this behavior of refusal to allow myself to speak at “progressive” groups continues. When David Cobb came to Minneapolis to speak at a Move To Amend event, I attempted to ask a question. However since you had to write your question and have the presenter ask it, I knew it would not be asked. At the event David Cobb, former Green Party presidential candidate stated to a room full of Democrats that “I have been asked and no, I do not believe that we need another political party.” He then thanked the elected Democratic Party officials sitting in the room.

    My question, which was not asked, is a central and direct question. It is to the Move To Amend folks. If the political process is completely corrupted by corporate money, how can we expect that system put in place by corporate money, be willing to have an Amendment to remove said corporate money out of the process. That question remains today, even if the Move To Amend folks refuse to allow me to ask it in their stage managed forums."


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    When Obama/Biden makes up a WMD lie like Bush/Cheney, the motive is oil.
     
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    i dont think so, its more about power balance in the ME, the wahhabits and the Zionists just want hard Iran, and baath Syria is the weakest of Iranian allies in the region . Syria will be the biggest victory for house of saud and its state ideology (wahhabism)
     
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    Neither Assad or the Wahabs are behind it. The IDF did it. Israel has both chemical weapons and the means to deliver them to Ghouta. Why isn't Israel suspect?
     
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    Well america is just not a free country anymore. Its a fascist state.

    The same "Progressives" from Air America Radio who screamed about obvious WMD lies for the last TWELVE YEARS, and Bush are all acting like GOVERNMENT STENOGRAPHERS obfuscating the most salient points about this SYRIA WAR FOR OIL and NEOCON POLICY OF OBAMA. THEY ARE ALL USING NEWS SPEAK and its the same BS as RUMSFELD. State propaganda 24-7 on our radios and TVs, its a farce!
     
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    it is...just check out this thread . i dont think that Israel was behind of this mess, it was too unprofessional for Mossad

    ps
    http://rt.com/op-edge/saudi-chemical-behind-syrian-attack-421/
     
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2e8ePBRvb
     
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    But they helping to arm and train the Al Queda murderous thugs.

    Also - ever notice how often the casualty count changed in the so called "chemical attack" ???

    First it was 350, then 500. Then it was 1000, now 1500 is the number
    Obomber is throwing around.

    It always changed because its BS !!!
     
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    The Mossad is professional enough to make things look unprofessional when they want to. Actually, the Mossad rarely gets its hand dirty, so I doubt they actually killed Syrians with chemical weapons. They just put people wanting to make a point in touch with people who have weapons for sale. Lord knows, the Jews make good brokers. And most of the time, the people with weapons for sale are Russian Jews.
     
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    found this new data:

    [video=youtube;et1NSxT1K4w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et1NSxT1K4w&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    Thanks Monster Zero for the funny video
    Irak veterans.jpg
     
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    I think it ended up at the rather acturate figure of ,1349,how the hell,did get established ,who knows ,this stuff is on the level of Obama in wonderland ,does he get drug tested ,and as far as anything being able to be Believed ,coming from the Whitehouse ,well WMD to that!

    End of story.

    Al-Qaeda =CIA ,and 911 was also very Convenient.9-11 a sick CIA Joke!

    Am I saying that the CIA was responsible for 911, YES ,if not directly thru letting it happen !

    Always remember that Al-Qaeda was financed and armed by Reagan and the CIA ,against the USSR's intervention against the Taliban and Mujahedeen ,then as if by Magic Al-Qaeda .
     

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