Tackle white supremacy as terrorism, experts say

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No it is not always based on ignorance.

    Education should never be mandatory because no one is qualified to make it so. In fact the constant decline of education in this nation is due to mandating it.

    Free expression of beliefs is indeed possible without education which in the case of government is indoctrination
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They're called "schools". And they're not re-education. The prefix "re" would seem to imply that white supremacists had been educated at some point in the past. They have not.
     
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    Black gangs too?

    Who do you think commits more crimes?
     
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    By the numbers, a white supremacist is probably the least of anyone's concerns... but you know... this is super cereal right now guys... cuz Trump is LITERALLY Hitler :omg:
     
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    He stated accurate fact at exactly the most inappropriate moment. It's like talking about how the dead guy cheated on his wife at his funeral. Or wearing an "I don't care, do U" jacket to visit children who were just violently separated from their parents. We know it's true... but it also tells us all we need to know....
     
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    He spoke the truth exactly when it was needed.

    There were in fact awful people on both aides and fine people on both sides he emphasized the latter
     
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    If there were 60+ million white supremacists in this country and they were as violent and deadly as you want us to believe, then a loooooot of people on your side would be pushing up daisies.
     
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    Actually, it's due to not mandating it. Countries that do mandate it are way ahead of us. What we need to do is, at a minimum, require mandatory real standardized testing. Which include questions dealing with culture, biology, anthropology, science... all the areas in which racists are strongly lacking.

    There is no freedom of expression without freedom of thought. And there is no freedom of though without education.

    Confusing education with indoctrination reveals your own shortcomings in education.
     
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    Why did he emphasize the latter? Nobody said anything to the contrary. The reporter asked specifically about the neo-nazis. He said everything was going fine until the neo-nazis started the violence.
     
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    And actually, literal racists don't like trump. They think he's a shill for da jooos. But facts don't matter when there's a narrative to push.
     
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    We all know the left’s strategy here; tell everyone the country is full of bad white dudes, tie them to Trump, and then tell everyone that racist Joe Biden is the answer.
     
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    /end thread
     
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    This post seems to be missing something...

    Oh I know! He forgot to mention the rule 11 violation because the thread is against people he doesn’t like.


    On topic:

    If they do something terroristic(just being someone who wants a whites only country doesn’t count, that’s free speech) then yes, charge them that way.

    Oh, and not everybody agrees with you.
     
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    The real white supremacists are the clowns running the government. They think that they can make everyone on the planet cater to all of their whims. They use the military as a terrorist agent against all who won't obey them. Right now they are getting ready to terrorize Iran.
     
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    You lefties are constantly posting this as if Trump was talking about the person who had driven the car throw the crowd. He wasn't.
    Pure racism? Really?

    The murderer and the victim were both white.
     
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    Our education system relies way to heavily on standardized testing as it is. You can't teach wisdom, you just can't.
    You are fairly naive to think that racists are all uneducated hillbillies.
    There is certainly freedom of thought without education, you seem to relate education with intelligence and there is absolutely no correlation.
     
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    True. It's fair to assume that graduates of the STEM fields (and associated vocations) are probably a bit sharper than average... but "education" outside that realm can amount to mere subversion or brainwashing.
     
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    White supremacists.

    That's who puts this much effort into defending white supremacy.
     
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    Or normal white people who're tired of seeing daily reminders of "white man bad".

    Who has defended it anyways?
     
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    So, future crimes. Do you suggest we start prosecuting folks for crimes they havnt committed?
     
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    Here are a few phrases in law. 'criminal intent' 'mens rea' 'guilty mind' 'corrupt intent' We have been asserting the existence of a specific mental state and proving motive in law for hundreds of years. You never charge the idea with a crime or a civil wrong. You charge conduct as crime or torte, but you show a motive, a reason, or an animus as behind either the conduct ,or the plan behind the conduct or the behavior subsequent thereof in hiding the crime or obstructing the investigation of the crime. There is nothing new about looking at the ideas involved in illegal conduct in a courtroom setting.
     
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    Usually, I would say no.

    However, I would definitely advocate preemptively ridding the streets of White Supremacists.
     
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    Ah yes, the daily reminders from fascist friendly white manboys who like to invoke the entirety of whiteness to bulk up their feeble belief systems.
     
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    Would that be future crimes, or thought crimes?

    And what exactly would a 'white supremacist' be?

    Also, what about other ethnic supremacy groups? Whites arent the only ones with racial extremists lurking on their fringes.
     
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    Yeah but... they shouldn't have been beating his nice car with bats.
     

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