'Take her out': Recording appears to capture Trump at private dinner saying he wants Ukraine ambassa

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  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    So you're for impeachment on policy differences, correct?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Again, irrelevant to the fact that this shows that Trump wanted her fired LONG before Biden even ran for office. Which shows that the narrative that Dems have been pushing regarding her being fired in order to make it easier for Trump et al to extort/bribe Ukraine in order to get political dirt on Biden is false.
     
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  3. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    No, it does not. What is far more of interest is why the orders of POTUS were ignored for about 12 months. Can you explain that?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You can deny it all that you want. But facts are facts. Trump wanted her fired long before Biden entered the picture.

    Don't need to. Because its irrelevant. You might be interested in it. I'm not. Unless you believe that these are made up doctored recordings? That would explain why you think that this doesn't prove that Trump wanting her fired had nothing to do with Biden.
     
  5. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Nope. What I reckon is that Trump then got Rudy to go over to Ukraine to suss out what was said in that covert recording.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    What covert recording?
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How you reached that flawed conclusion escapes me.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He may have wanted her out before Biden officially announced his candidacy, but not before he knew (from early polls) that he was a potential and likely leading democratic candidate - back in April 2018.
     
  9. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    1st, please provide any polls from April 2018 related to Biden....and then prove that Trump knew about them.

    2nd, Are you seriously trying to tell me that Trump was prescient and new that Biden would run and therefore cooked up a scheme about Ukraine a year before Biden announced he would run? Dude....you're stretching big time.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's a whole lot of them listed in this Newsweek article from April 2018.
    https://www.newsweek.com/how-popula...show-support-democratic-2020-candidate-875097

    I can't definitively prove Trump knew about them, but can reasonably believe that he did, given the extent of news coverage - not to mention his voracious appetite for news, which at the time also included a flurry of reports on Fox News about Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine. Even the chief of staff to the President of Ukraine was already expressing concerns that these reports would drag Ukraine in US politics.
    If Biden's leading in early polls, there's no reason why Trump would hold back until he officially announces. Forward planning and not a big stretch at all. All he had to do was start raising questions about the Biden's in Ukraine, and get Rudy on the case.
     
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  11. Bluesguy

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    So what, ambassadors serve solely at the pleasure of the President.
     

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