Terrorists fire rockets from Gaza hospital

Found another one

Son of Islam founder Video

http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=34862

 

I am totally convinced now. Thank you for my weekly brainwashing

 

HBender, I am certainly not going to wade through several videos of a Hamas Traitor. Like some but unlike other Israelis who come on this forum I am well aware that your position is with those making the attempt to align Hamas with ISIS, rather than you having come under the spell of the massive propaganda which I can see is circulating that this is so, not just from Israel but unfortunately also from some of her supporters outside Israel. I cannot believe that you believe listening to a traitor who worked as your spy is evidence. He was arrested first and then began his work just as this minor who suffered abuse from Israel in Gaza and was pressured to spy did not.

http://972mag.com/palestinian-teen-i-was-used-as-a-human-shield-in-gaza/95800/

Let's instead look carefully at this intent by the Israel Government to get Hamas seen as ISIS, no doubt with the intention of justifying some form of genocide in Gaza. I mean we all know that Israel no intention to kill 8 women, children and the old to get one or two Hamas. It is all accidents. Clearly it will result in genocide in Gaza to get all Hamas .......and of course the West Bank as well. I would suggest therefore that your interest and that of other pro Israelis who wrongly link Hamas to ISIS is a desire which will result, not just in ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians but in genocide so let's just be clear what we are talking about. Hamas is very popular currently in the West Bank. It's support in Gaza was not high before Israel began massacring Gaza civilians but it has since been rising both in Gaza and also in the West Bank. It is not possible to remove Hamas from Palestine but that is what Israel has said she intends to do. Hence her declaration that Hamas is ISIS can be seen as nothing other than propaganda to justify an intention on genocide on the Palestinians.

Take a look at this intent on propaganda and stating Israel's current position.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/COLUMN-ONE-Understanding-the-Israeli-Egyptian-Saudi-alliance-371891

We see Israel now being aligned with Egypt and Saudi Arabia rather than the US. She is determined with them to destroy the Muslim Brotherhood which Hamas is aligned with. However this fails at the first output as we can see. Egypt asked the UK to decry The Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organisation. Unfortunately for Cameron and Egypt and Israel and Saudi Arabia the British investigation led by a previous Ambassador to Saudi Arabia found it is not so. The Muslim Brotherhood is not a terrorist organisation

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-isis-and-the-muslim-brotherhood-9677178.html

and Hamas is certainly not ISIS. The suggestions in that JP article are simply an example of the propaganda that Israel is needing to keep presenting to her public to keep them on board on a very inhumane journey.



(I will not be much online for the next few days.)

 

Israel didnt build when we had Oslo signed, only when Hamas blew the agreement the building continued.

 

You sure?

http://www.missionislam.com/conissues/palestine.htm

This is also an interesting article concerning the wall

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs...i-apartheid-wall-really-stop-suicide-bombings

 

Alexa you found nothing absurd about a Psychiatrist rationalizing violent behaviour and murder.

You also clearly showed your agenda-to come on this forum and justify Hamas extremist terrorism.

What next a story again as to how you spoke to your daughter about this?

 

It turns out that 'Islam' is calamitous for the free world and...
BTW my family name is BENDOR I suppose you are ingenuous enough to see the difference. Axela...

 

I often notice that when Alexa comes on this board she feels that since she found an article she agrees with, this ends any other possible view.

Her latest exercise was to find a psychiatrist with a clear political bias who justifies Hamas terrorism and passes that off as legitimate piece of reasoning since after all the Hamas supporter is a psychiatrist.

It didn't dawn on her its not a psychiatrist's role to ever under any circumstance rationalize or justify a patient;s violent behaviour.

No not Alexa. If the cause is her cause, then terrorism is justified. Its reasonable. it could not possibly dawn on her the person claiming to be a psychiatrist is breaking his basic code of professional ethics.

To Alexa it makes sense. Hey its understandable people are rapists. They feel powerless. In Alexa's mind a rapist is justified in raping if they can prove women take their power and freedom away. Right Alexa?

Oh no. She only means Hamas with Jews. Its different you know.

Bull crap and its about time Alexa you were called out once and for all for your support of terrorism by Hamas as justified.
4. Terrorist Strategy

In the world of human behaviour there are said to be two kinds of aggression, i-emotional and the other ii- instrumental.


Emotional aggression is associated with anger and when one is angry and taken over by anger they suspend rational thought and so there is no not calculation of the long-term consequences of lashing out in anger.

Emotional aggression in its most basic form is lashing out at someone you feel has hurt you.

Well it is a psychiatrist's role to counsel patients that lashing out in anger may seem a short term solution but in the long term it achieves nothing in terms of preventing the conflicts that generate the anger.

A psychiatrist's role is to try help us evolve past our primal, emotional aggressive behaviour and evolve past it. Emotionally aggressive behaviour is seen as counter-productive and maladaptive. That is to say, it prevents healing and peaceful resolution.

The second kind of aggression, Instrumental aggression is in fact the calculated, planned, pre-meditated thought out exercise of terrorizing others.

In the words Alexa parrots, the psychiatrist makes no distinction between the 2 types of aggression. While the first type might explain a person's inability to stop themselves and their anger the second does not because in the second, the aggressor is not under immediate attack with no choice but to fight or flee or stand paralyzed and overwhelmed.

The problem is inflexible minds, rigid minds that can only see their way or the other way, and justify any means of expression if it supports their way do not get that it is not acceptable morally or ethically to deliberately plan terror. That justifies the thought process that humans are not capable of sitting and engaging in peaceful dialogue. It assumes the absolute-that peace is not possible and only violence is the option.

Therein lies the absolute immoral bull sheeyit in the argument Alexa tries to advance and that is-that rational people, reasonable people plan terror because they do not believe logic and rational discourse is possible.

That is a classic case of the idiot claiming they are an idiot and chose to be an idiot because someone else made them an idiot., Read back Alexa's psychiatrist source The choice of violence, of being an idiot terrorist is caused by others. The terrorist is necessarily a powerless idiot who can not think for themselves and is totally forced to act the way they do-there is no individual choice process. The rapist was forced to be that way because of society,

Bull crap.

Each day Muslims come out of violent environments as do non Muslims and reject hatred, terrorism and violence. They come from the exact same environment as Hamas.

It is an insult to such people as Alexa now does to suggest they are in fact not normal, terrorists are.


What a crock.

Terrorist aggression is instrumental aggression Yes it may have a component of emotional aggression, especially for those who do the killing, but Alexa and her terror loving psychiatrist are dead wrong in their attempt to justify terrorism because those who plan terrorist acts plan out what they want to accomplish. Their specific intent and as is written out clearly in the Hamasa manigesto is the intent to inflict genocide first on Jews, then on other non Muslims until a world dhumma, a one world Muslim caliphate is achieved.

In Alexa's world we ignore the Hamas charter. We ignore the mission statement of the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS. We pretend the three are not one and the same.We pretend Hamas is a victim.

We selectively deny Hamas is victimizing its own people. We deliberately ignore it rapes its own people under the pretext of being a victim of Zionism.

Alexa is typical of the Hamas apologists on this forum. They justify what Hamas does because they believe in their political views, at least they think they do. In Alexa's position repeated over and over again, Zionists are evil and need to be punished.

After all her daughter told her. How can her daughter be rong.

Alexa is a terrorist apologist.

The fact is terrorism inflicts immediate damage in destroying lives and material. It is the specific intent of terrorists to create fear, chaos, uncertainty through sustained and random violence and in the case of Hamas it victimizes intentionally its own people as much if not more than it does the alleged enemy.

Hamas' intent with its kidnappings and rocket attacks is to force Israel to spend time and money on security and cause its peoples' lives to be disrupted.

Its intent is also to kill its people as political proganada tools to gain world sympathy for its cause. The killing of its own people is pre-meditated. It warns them they are powerless to stop Hamas and must do what Hamas says as well as deliberately kill them for p.r. coverage.

Hamas is now on film beating its citizens and forcing them back into homes to deny. Its own people are leaking stories of how Hamas lied to them and deliberately sent them to a market place where they were told was under a ceasefire truce which they knew was not deliberatelykilling them all.

In the world of Alexa it is justified to use hospitals, schools, government buildings, community centres, homes as command posts.

In the world of Alexa its acceptable for Hamas to take money that could have been used to build a society and built tunnels instead while its people had no homes. Its acceptable for Hamas to take literally the food away from Palestinians to feed itself.

Hamas' intent is to elicit a violent response to its violence.

A terrorist group is the apex of a pyramid of supporters and sympathizers. The base of the pyramid is composed of all those who sympathize with the terrorist cause even though they may disagree with the violent means that the terrorist use.

My arguments come from my own conclusions and fromClark McCauley's psychology of terrorism paper.

I argue this to anyone coming on this board to justify what Hamas, Isis and the Muslim Brotherhood,Hezbollah and all the other Muslim extremist terrorists stand for and that is, we have a moral obligation, a “prima facie” duty to “non-maleficence”. It is our ultimate responsibility to not harm others.

Israel has a moral responsibility to protect its citizens from terror and if Palestinian civilians die to assure that its not something they want but is inevitable until Hamas can be permanently removed from harming its people.

In Alexa's world can terrorists if they are Hamas are justified but people defending themselves against terrorists such as Israel are unjustified terrorists.

She judges.

 

Here is a report on Gaza from source, study this you might gain some recognition.

Following MURDEROUS HAMAS theory is to retrograde to the seventh century.

Watch this :

The Bolt Report - Gaza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8GkE1EY_QA&sns=em

 

Watch this from Canada

Douglas Murray - Israel's Opponents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZADDMS5Q78

 

They tried everything except making peace after declaring war in 1948.

 

First of all the Authur is clearly a terrorist, "political organization" that will get you in prison is Islamic Jihad or Hamas, not PLO that also used Terrot in the PAST but now was on road to make peace, the other just want to strike a military victory over Israel.
"Life sentance" for a "Military action"....right.....blowing up a resturant filled with ppl should clearly be supported and cherished. poor political prisoners.

They could also have used their Arab aid money to build Hotels and make Gaza a resort city, dont work in Israel at all if it so degrading.

The terrorist forgot to mention his "political organization" vicous terror attacks BETWEEN the lift of the curfews and Bibi election, the time where we all were supposed to sing "Hair" songs was instead a long blood trail of Bus and resturants bombings - BECAUSE HAMAS REFUSED TO MAKE PEACE WITH ISRAEL !

Quoting terrorists that lie about facts wont change the facts Madam.

 

Hamas never tried anything but war, they never denied it and keep saying it today, I find it amazing when Europeans hear them talk of war yet translate it for peace and tolerance.

 

The name is <BENDOR> please correct what you childishly do to give it another meaning...please change your glasses if you can Axela.

 

Clueless. You do understand what 'duty of care' entails when applied to a belligerent occupier under international law? Of course you do; you just prefer the subject was not brought to your attention, because you have no rebuttal.

 

Gaza is legitimately resisting an aggressive occupying power. Wouldn't you if you were being evicted for no reason, and a bunch of religious nutters stole your land and property because a 'god' told them it was ok? You might not, if you were a gutless wimp. The Palestinians are not.

 

They've illegally invaded Palestinian territory-and with the complicity and encouragement of their leader, in contravention of international law-what's the difference? No real surprise given the long list of violations Israel has committed.

 

Add another violation:

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2...ted-rocket-fire-to-launch-deif-assassination/

 

Terrorism and targeting civilians is not resistance, even in the koolaide drinker's world.

 

They declared war on Israel, have her destruction as their policy centerpiece and conduct regular terorist attacks against her people. Defending herself using Article 51 of the UN Charter is quite legal when faced with such hate.

 

An occupier is responsible to ensure civil order is maintained and is permitted to use force if necessary it's in the GC Snake.

 

We all just imagined Netinyahoo's boasting that he derailed Oslo.

 

Sorry I disagree and clueless would fit nicely into what you have responded to:

I am not here to win the argument since you base what you supposedly know perusing the PLO syllabus.

Yes we are <occupiers> of our country and not someone else's... Jericho is occupied and Gaza is occupied by Arabs!

 

Again I will not let this one pass by me without a clarification.
Gaza to Israel is like Scotland or Welsh is to the UK... And Hamas are gutless wimps, we had to go down sixty feet to realize they changed into civics to avoid a confrontation and now we will all talk about civilian casualties. Give us a break.

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Rubbish........................

 

Bendor, do you regard the Palestinian's (sorry, "Ayyyrabs") to be Vermin or snakes?