Texas becomes biggest US state to lift COVID-19 mask mandate

Cars are safer than they use to be, but there's still a chance you'll die in a car wreck.....better not ever drive anywhere right?

What you just said can literally be said about anything. The mental deterioration of this country due to the lockdowns is many times worse than this disease, which if your below a certain age is no more dangerous than the flu and if you're really young the flu is actually far more dangerous. I'll bet you've never advocated for shut downs and masks during flu season though. And if masks worked, why did the numbers not go down despite virtually everybody wearing one? If they worked as you say, we would've seen the results. What masks do is catch the moisture from breathing and it just sits there waiting for you to touch it (which everybody does) and then touch anything else in whatever store you're in.

You really should check the CDC study done last summer on the mental health of people during the lockdowns. It, IMO, proves the lock down is far worse than the disease. 25% of people 18-24 have strongly considered suicide. That should disturb ANYBODY. Also, it was last summer when we'd only been at this for a few months....I'm guessing the numbers would be even worse now.

How many peoples lives have to be destroyed for you to realize these restrictions aren't worth it? How much extra crime are you willing to tolerate? How many extra suicides are acceptable to you? The repercussions of these restrictions are far reaching and the advocates for them refuse to consider just how damaging they've been.

 

Notice how the MSN reporting cannot just simply report the fact that Texas has ended the mask mandate. They have to also make a claim with without providing a source for, or verification of, their claim. And that claim is masks are:

"one of the most effective ways to slow the spread of the coronavirus."

Maybe one of the PF mask advocates can cite the quantitative data source and metric for MSN claiming that a mask is one of the most effective ways to slow the Covid spread. Effective as compared to what?

I don't doubt that masks possibly have some impact on not spreading Covid, but to compare masks to other preventive measures in a scientific manner requires metrics and data.

A good indicator of fake news is appeals to emotions and claims without a source. Notice the emotional/propaganda tone of the OP cited news article.

Liberalism has taken on the attributes of a religion.

 

If by "germs" you mean bacteria and viruses . . . then yes. That's because they aren't idiots. Anyone denying the reality that bacteria and viruses cause disease is in desperate need of psychiatric help. When only experts are at the "extremes" . . . they aren't extremes. There are basic ****ing education.

 

I seriously doubt that but we will see.

 

Give me a f***ing break. You're a numbers guy, you know masks, while better than nothing, were VERY poor protection from the virus. I always wore a mask and I got it - just like millions of others. So, you tell me, what happens when you take a precaution that isn't particularly effective and then start decreasing the sick people? At some point it is simply STUPID to continue to wear a mask.

 

Thousands still Die daily

President Biden has the correct sentiments

 

The hell he does. Joe is damn near a vegetable.

 

Our bodies carry thousands of bacteria and viruses all the time. Germ theory says that one single germ makes people sick (like isolating a "Covid" germ). Terrain theory suggests that your body (the terrain) is too acidic, which would attract any number of germs, bacteria and viruses, to attack you and make you sick. People who are "healthy" do not get sick when infected with "the germ" targeted by germ theorists. They get no symptoms or very mild symptoms because their "terrain" is functioning properly.

Think of a mosquito as "the germ". The mosquito doesn't touch clean clear water. The mosquito seeks out the stagnant murky swamp. The mosquito did not cause the swamp to become putrid. The state of the swamp attracted the mosquito.

I don't see that the two theories are "one or the other" as some extremist might infer. They seem to be rather compatible theories. Terrain theorists focus on keeping the swamp clean and/or cleaning the swamp in order to get rid of the mosquito. Germ theorists believe in giving people all sorts of pharmaceuticals to kill the germ, but the patient (elderly and immune-compromised) will still draw to themself whatever other germs exist. In fact, side effects from pharma treatment may leave them more vulnerable.

We need to protect the elderly and the frail, no doubt, but the hale and healthy need to go out and work before they become elderly and/or frail, because eventually it happens to all of us.

 

Very well stated. I worked a similar position for almost a decade as a director for a specific area of expertise. There were six of us department heads with different business-specialty knowledge areas, all reporting to and advising the business unit director, so I know exactly where you're coming from.

Instead of having a leader acting as the "umbrella" over different fields of knowledge, what we have today is a bunch of virologists and epidemiologists "being" the umbrella. They are myopic on their own field and totally oblivious to the larger picture of the consequences and ramifications of their decisions.

 

If we had more people like in Tejas, we’d have 2% less people like in Tejas.

Give them what they want in Tejas:

Let them all get COVID and let god sort them out. Waste no more resources on Tejas and instead divert them to states who actually want to end the pandemic. Pull FEMA out and seal Tejas’s borders until the pandemic is over.

 

The triggered is strong in you.

Not sure how we'll make it past a virus with a 99.9% survival rate.....maybe we'll just get lucky.

Clearly not being able to tell others how to live their lives bothers you.....I'll bet you wish we cared. But by all means keep being triggered, it's entertaining.

 

Thanks for your warm wishes and support! LOL

 

Whoa , it’s what you want , right ? I’m just protecting the rest of the country.

Why should we suffer because of your recklessness? Serious question.

 

see post #90

 

Are you wearing your dress, drama queen?

 

No one has to suffer anyone else's recklessness. Hide under your bed and order everything delivered if you'd like. Or go out and live a fully as you can until something kills you. Pursue your happiness in whatever way you decide. That's part of freedom of choice.

And as @Nightmare515 said, if you don't want Texans in your state, then petition your governor to block Texans from crossing your border.

 

It's not even majorly their own risk though, it's largely mine. If these idiots were just killing themselves I'd be all for it. The American gene pool obviously needs a good deal of improvement and anyone who wants to kill me is not someone I want around. (I'd miss you LSG but since you obviously don't give a flying fandango about my life I feel obligated to reluctantly return the favor) The problem is that the vast majority of the spreading is done by asymptomatic carriers, each and every one of which is a typhoid Mary who can give the disease to thousands who will then die while these spreaders without conscience go about their lives undisturbed. It's really difficult to go to work or get educated when you're dead.

 

Masks do not work.

 

COVID Death Rates By State

NJ 0.26%
NY 0.24%
RI 0.24%
MA 0.24%
US 0.16%
TX 0.15%

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Not sure why you are flipping out over Texas, other than you can't state Red State Liberty and Freedom:

CNN ANALYST ‘CAN’T COMPREHEND’ HOW GOV. GREG ABBOTT COULD TRUST TEXANS LIKE HER FRIEND TO TAKE SENSIBLE COVID19 PRECAUTIONS ON THEIR OWN:

 

~ More guessing by "experts" and their unproven models. Some say 35% - others say 55% . This entire fear and panic fiasco is the result of network "news" and piss-poor public relations psychology in the public health industry.
I find reading these conversations with the looong unnecessary ramblings and dissertations of statistics pulled off the internet ridiculous and amusing.
Carry on ...

" Those who speak the least often say more than others with many words and long breath. "

~ Confucius

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And who cares about anyone else anyway? After all, they're not me

 

Tejas is awesome !

Now all the home health aides can go back to work tending to their elderly, vulnerable clients without wearing a mask, whether they have COVID19 or not !

Now, a senior citizen who needs help getting out of bed can decide whether or not they really need that help or not considering that their mask-less health worker might
pass them a disease that will kill them.

 

Your exaggeration about "typhoid Marys" or one asymptomatic person spreading to "thousands" is amusing, but not based in fact. More people spread the virus in their own home among family members, and symptomatic people coughing are more contagious than asymptomatics.

Lifting restrictions does not mean that people don't give a flip about others, and masking can have worse outcomes than not masking. Before we had a mask mandate in Texas, people were much more observant of social distance, which is the most effective way to avoid picking up a virus from another person. After masking, people were more inclined to think that the social distance was less important because they were "protected" by a porous piece of cloth. They are also less likely to cough into their elbow (or cover their mouth with their hand).

Anecdotally, I went into a convenience store several months ago and the man ahead of me was not wearing a (required) mask, so I stood more than 6 feet behind him. Then he sneezed without covering his mouth. Twice. I took one more step backward, away from him, and almost stepped on the toe of a woman with a mask who was standing right behind me.

As I noted before, Abbott did not say "Don't wear a mask." I'm more than happy to continue to wear a mask at the grocery out of respect for having seniors/elderly feel more secure, even if I don't think masks are helpful. I expect that people who are at risk will make more of a point to stay far away from anyone without a mask than with a mask, as I have witnessed during times with and without mask mandates, but we'll see how it goes.