If you google 80% lower either you are full of (*)(*)(*)(*) or a lot of people have provided documentation of themselves committing felonies for the whole world to see. An 80% lower is not legally defined as a gun. It's a part like an upper, a bolt, a barrel, of a firing pin. Being legally defined as a part it is not required to have a serial number when the factory manufactures it. When the customer mills out the receiver themselves then that lower is legally defined as a gun. Since a private individual did it themselves rather than the factory that produced it this is still a private individual making a gun for personal use. Now if a private individual makes their own gun then sells it that would be a felony.
No worries. I should have better explained the difference in my first post - - - Updated - - - This has nothing to do with my post
So what's your point? You're saying if I mass produce guns and sell them to criminals it's a felony? Yeah no kidding. I wonder if that will really deter a black market to produce arms for criminals.
Please explain where 'arming bad guys' was ever the point? It's just the only possibility people like you can envision....
I was going to say, I actually know people who constructed their own weapons, and did so without a license, and were very open about it. Now obviously they can't sell them on the open market without a license, but as far as building guns... that's not something hard to do, or rare.
If everyone has guns why care about bad guys ? they are the minority after all . Not bad but i am sure there are better applications for 3d-printers .
In the constitution of the country i live gun ownership is banned unless you live next to the borders with Turkey where state supplies you weaponry for free .
The point of this is to take the power out of the hands of the state: it would no longer be a decision in Washington or Canberra. There are some things the state could do to curtail 3D gun printing, but they're all very costly: Outlaw 3D printers would destroy a legitimate industry. Significantly regulate 3D printers impractical, thousands have already been sold, plus smuggling a 3D printer is a lot easier than smuggling guns themselves. Regulate ammunition naturally you can't 3D print projectiles, but this runs into legal issues. In addition, bullets aren't too difficult to manufacture illegally, people do it all the time.
Kalispara! I agree. Every American should have a government supply of guns of three different calibers. My taxes can go up to support that.
You should do more research. That isn't necessarily true. - - - Updated - - - Springs and barrels are not regulated. You can purchase them anywhere without registering! - - - Updated - - - Absolute nonsense. That is 100% incorrect!
If you had watched the video in the link contained in the post you replied to you would have seen someone holding the gun in his hand and firing off rounds of Winchester white box ammunition.
That's kind of our point. If everyone had guns, we wouldn't care about bad guys. They wouldn't be a minority, they would be nearly eliminated. But in order to do that, we need the government to stop trying to prevent good guys from defending themselves. As for the better application..... that's subjective, isn't it? If I want a weapon that the government doesn't know about, and won't come to my house and steal all my stuff.... like they did in New Orleans... then I can't think of a better use for a 3D printer than that. - - - Updated - - - Completely wrong. Absolute garbage. 100% trash. To avoid looking like a fool please know what the heck you are talking about before you post.
No, what is really shows is how lame gun MYTHS are, and the first one is that "criminals" (who apparently get a criminal's guild card before committing any crime instead of being considered law-abiding citizens until they are caught and convicted) can always obtain guns. From where? "Somewhere" (to quote the sacred Ayn) I can't get a gun without giving my life's history and waiting a week but any mugger can apparently pluck them from the air...rriigghhtt In this case we are to assume that most criminals will have both the wherewithal and the expertise to obtain and operate something on the cutting edge of cybertronics. My own hope is that all the right wingnuts go out and buy one cheap. They'll make something, try to use it, and we'll have even less of them in the coming years. SSAYY, that wouldn't be a bad idea. How about the SatNite Specialist for Windows , available from your gun dealer for only $199.95
The nature of mankind calls for order. Let's not involve honesty; better to call them law-abiders... the "honest" in humans isn't as pure as we'd like to believe. To call a law lame is to misunderstand it's purpose. Laws aren't shields in that they're written to explicitly stop acts. They're there as references to support penalization, because "order" understands perfectly well the impulses of man. Deterrences are essential and necessary.
Yes criminals will always be able to get guns or something just as damaging to rob, loot, pillage, assault, and murder (actual criminals), doesn't make a bit of difference what idiotic laws governments come up with. The only way to fully eliminate guns is to create a prison state for the planet, where the one and only true government is the only armed entity and anybody else who pretends it is their right to defend themselves is shot down like the dogs you think they are. Totally pathetic. - - - Updated - - - Disarming the honorable so the criminal element have the advantage isn't serving a purpose except in the warped minds of the irrational.
Why wouldn't work just like a lot of software does now? You can pre-load software prior to its official release date, and upon release you are sent an activation code and able to use the software. I would imagine any company that wants to sell specs for their products could simply require that the printer be online and connected to their database, and only work with a limited time activation code. Sounds like something that would just be added to the EUSA or TOS...
Say what? So....you really are proving you don't have a clue. bought 2 handguns in Virginia and I have no license.
I know, right? I keep using the same argument as you when engaged in a drug legalization debate. People claim that criminals will get drugs anyway if they are legal but I'm too smart for them. I know that I have to make an appointment, wait an hour or more in the lobby, then convince my doctor that I'm suffering from some illness, then I have to go all the way to the pharmacy and prove that I am who I say I am, wait a couple more hours before I can get so much as a simple antibiotic. I have to go through ALL THAT and people expect me to believe that drug addicts can just go "somewhere" and buy drugs from drug dealers?...rriigghhtt...Me and you know better, eh?
Drugs are against the law but criminals can buy them on street corners all over the country. Now libs want to legalize drugs and ban guns that honest citizens use to defend themselves with.
The burden of proof that every (or even the majority) gun owner is dishonorable is on you. GOOD LUCK PROVING THAT LIE.