Texas Dems ask noncitizens to register to vote, send applications with citizenship box pre-checked

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

 

says the guy who literally copy and paste post all over the forum. What a joke.

 

But thats the problem, your NOT removing voters” who cannot vote”. It’s selective removal. Like the removal in Ohio (just 1 of many) which allows removal of voters just by name. So they find the name a a deceased person name (ex) Joe Rodrigez, then they purge EVERY Joe Rodrigez. And the study done against that purge showed that traditionally black and Hispanic names were 10x more likely to be purged than traditionally white names. Then their are cases like I posted previously where to be able to vote, states accept gun permits, but not college ID’s as valid voter ID’s.

I’m fine with cleaning the voter roles, really I am. But at least I’m honest in what I see happened get and it is all about disenfranchising traditionally democratic voting blocks. The righ who making the case that their is voter fraud, which I do beleive happens, but in such small numbers it does effect election. And the right does this in the name of “election integrity”, but in the very next sentence they fight tooth and nail against any measures that might resign in election fraud.

The amount of effort it would take to sway even a local election with voter fraud is ridiculous, not to mention the exponential risk. But when anyone starts talking about election fraud, the right gets defensive with “nothing to see here folks”.......

If you want to have the high ground on election integrity, make sure that we’re fighting both sides of it. One or 2 dead guys voting is not going to sway an election. But, 1 or 2 bad guys counting the vote can do that very easily

 

So somehow common names are more common amongst hispanics?

Black names are generally the same as WHITE names.

Like the lame (and racist) view that blacks just can't seem to get an ID (even though Obamacare REQUIRES ID), its just the latest stall tactic to provide room for fraud.

All you have to know is in an election where dems liked to claim the russians interfered, they STILL don't want to verify who people are.

That would make it too hard to cheat you see.

 

FTR, I support Voter ID. But nothing you posted refutes nor justifies what happened. I never claimed that “common names are more common among Hispanics”, i said they were used to purge them from the roles. Selecting names with Hispanic originals, or common names of ANY demographic that isn’t republican, geographic locations not historically republican are bing purged SELECTIVELY.

I see that you dont deny the purging, but your also not refuting the methods either.

 

What exactly "happened"?

I seem to recall you saying hispanics all have the same names, and the voter rolls are purged after one name.

What was the incident, and the govt report on it? (not partisan hearsay)

If you support voter ID, fine.

If you are going to offer the other sides criticism at least do it well.

Lots of cubans are Hispanic.

40 percent (according to the MSM) approve of Trump.

So please, explain the injustice (hint-it always always helps dems)

And yes, I deny your loaded term of purging.

Purging was shooting people in basements over hearsay.

 

Quickly order your absentee ballot for your vote to be counted.

 

Its being suggested that if it were not for Texas's strong voter id laws that this likely wouldn't have been uncovered. And to think that throughout all of 2017 we were bombarded daily with tales of election tampering.

 

I get my ballot mailed to me.

I will deliver it on election night, to the registrar.

As in the actual registrar.

 

My point stands. You found one case where 16 people were indicted, and you're trying to build a false equavilancy between that and a bogus story about Democrats sending out voter registration forms. Of course, the one thing both stories have in common is the mexihate aspect that tickles the talk radio right's fancy.

 

That may be being suggested by AM right wing talk radio types and the sort of totally uninformed people who make stuff up and blurt it out on trashy blogs, but your assertion that "it is being suggested:" makes no more sense than the made up OP story does in the first place.

Texas' voter id laws have NOTHING at all to do with registering to vote. And they certainly would not have prevented anyone from submitting a false or inaccurate application to register to vote.

As I noted above, these right wing voter fraud scare memes that flood right wing media in the two or three months before each election don't have to make any sense at all, or have to be true , for the right wing audeince to eat them up like catnip.

Thanks for making my point!

 

So, you can't refute the claim, so you make up nonsense.

I have no objection to photo ID. But it must be standardized, national, and easily obtainable by any eligible person,
The GOP has been punking you with this Voter ID meme for almost two decades now, and the GOP has never, and does not now support any standardized national voter ID law.

And they never will. GOP backed voter ID laws are specifically designed to PREVENT targeted populations from voting, or making it significantly harder for them to vote. The tactic works, as the GOP keeps trying it. Often, they lose in court. Judges in many cases have called the GOP out for its phony arguments and obvious tactics.

But you wont get objections from the angry old white man vote, since racial politics is a major driver for that group. So, they'll self righteously beat their chests about the integrity of the vote, while knowing next to nothing about voter registration law. They'll ignore the fact that the efforts of voter supression actives like Van Spasspofsky and Chris Kolvatch have found almost no real voter fraud, and even then only very isolated cases.

But a simple talk radio meme that "tells it like it is" (to an audience that doesn't care about facts) is enough. It doesn't have to make sense or be true.

 

Here's who it's supposed to "scare" ...
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-foreign-nationals-indicted-illegally-voting-2016-elections

 

I have a justice.gov link on the 19 illegals ... very diverse group of nationalities. Why are you singling out Mexicans? Do you know how many Bangladeshi's illegally crossed, well how many were caught at the southern border last year? I have more voter fraud cases, and they're rare because states democrats secure legal injunctions to prevent investigations.

 

Don't throw this on talk radio people, throw it in the "common sense" bucket.

Tom, you will find virtually no one in the democrat legislature be it on a state or national lever that will support photo ID. This has been kicked and batted around for years and the resistance is ALWAYS from the democrat side of the aisle. Even when the concession was made by republicans it also mandate paper ballot backup they resist. You can write paragraphs and screech "voter suppression" "disenfranchising voters", blah, blah. put when put to the test, the only way to clean up national voting is with some form of voter photo ID with a paper ballot backup. You and I both know that will take a lot of arguments away form both the right and left. As far as standardized ID, that is bullshit. There are plenty of forms of ID that already show proof. Again, we both also know that to be a fact.

 

Pretty sure i never said “all Hispanics have the same name”.......I said that they use traditionally Hispanic names to put on the list...Rodrigez, Garcia, Lopez, etc,etc,etc.....

Here one example.....there are more....

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...ions-settles-lawsuit-over-voter-purge-n816941

Now your being obtuse. You and I both know that the right is absolutly the side that is actively working to make it harder to vote. They are purging voters at any chance they get(see: Georgia) in the name of “integrity” in the election process. I find it odd that they almost always do it in traditionally democratic areas, and with traditionally democratic demographics.

But lets be cler, what i originally said was that if we are being honest about the integrity of our electoral process, then we should actively and honestly talking about election fraud. Election fraud is MUCH easier to perpitrate, and has a much larger effect wth much smaller effort. Kansas SOS Kobach running for governor and his office, via his appointees (read: FRIENDS) actually counting the votes was met with crickets by the right.
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Each voting district should have at least three witnesses to make sure ballots are counted and voters are registered. If anything goes wrong, it needs to be documented and reported.

 

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The case you cited sounds like an issue with democrats in NYC, and I am fine with the outcome.

Im not trying to prevent people from voting.

Im trying to prevent voter fraud.