The "1984" Mentality of Those Opposing Occupy Wall Street

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  1. lizarddust

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    Why are they protesting around the world?
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    So the OP would rather have us just drones of the liberal media?
     
  3. Vergilius

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    Great points. I have noticed correlations with the novel as well. And yes, the conservatives will just continue to recycle the same insults regarding OWS, as this thread has proven. They can't be helped.
     
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    OWS is funded by the corporations. wake up...
     
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    But... corporations are people!
     
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    "Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to a dictatorship."
    -Avram Noam Chompsky
     
  7. Professor Peabody

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    I didn't insult you personally, if you think so post it.

    Re-read my post I never said Obama was responsible for TARP, only the bailout executives they wrote into the stimulus bill. TARP was a Democrat sponsored bill with a majority Democrat vote Yea and the Republican majority voting Ney

    So go protest where you belong....at the Congress and White House

    Fat chance, they are doing nothing but laughing at OWS. Just look at the democrat mayors clearing out the encampments with the police.

    While the OWS movement was started by sincere individuals, it has been co-opted and corrupted by the organized leftists and big unions. OWS will never even get off the ground more than the flash in the pan it's been as long as people see organized leftists, unions involved and especially as long as the violence continues. Doing you best doesn't mean a tinkers (*)(*)(*)(*), it destroys the credibility of you movement.
     
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    The movement has the needed momentum now, and no amount of dispearsals and headknocking arrests will slow it down.
     
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    The Tea Party already formed in opposition to government corruption and bank bailouts almost 3 years ago.

    So what's relevant is the cultural and ideological differences of the two movements. Like pooping on cop cars and raping women. Or things like the tea party believes that no one should be bailed out. While the message of OWS is that the 1% are being bailed out instead of the 99% who should be bailed out.

    So, no we are not brainwashed. We are playing spot the differences. Differences such as "Hey, I don't remember people being raped at a tea party rally".
     
  10. Professor Peabody

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    Your needed momentum is outta gas.

    FIZZLE! Look like the ex-lax wore off and the movement is losing steam.
     
  11. NoPartyAffiliation

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    Thanks for proving the point in the OP.

    Here's the difference between Libs, Independents and Conservs: I've seen a lot of Libs and Indies reply to Conservs (including in this thread) with something like:
    "You have a legitimate point." or "You're right about that."

    Whether a lack of courage or character, Conservs don't have it in them to do that. Seems like fear - which brings us back to the 1984 mentality. Don't acknowledge that anyone but those with similar indoctrination can ever be right about anything or have a valid point!
    Although I get kind of a kick out of the "Oh Yeah? Well WE protested bailouts FIRST! Nyah!"
    As opposed to say, something like "Yes, I'm sure there are things both the Tea Party and OWS have in common, this being one of them." (which was posted by someone who is obviously NOT a Conservative).

    Oh well. I know plenty of Conservs irl with both and I'm sure I'll encounter one on the internet eventually. Some day.
     
  12. frodo

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    The 99% movement is up and running.

    The stables in Washington need to be cleaned - on both sides of the aisle.

    By the way, can we act like grown ups and stop this "The protesters have cooties" rubbish? Stating that the protesters are drug users, sexual predators, etc. is a deliberate tactic to try and stop ordinary people from identifying with the movement.
     
  13. FearandLoathing

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    Well, now, I agree that OWS has captured the attention of the world. I doubt there has not been such a ubiquitous movement since the Ban the Bomb movement of the 50's and 60's...

    But what have they accomplished? So far they have done little more than make an issue over the right to erect tent cities as a form of protest and cost taxpayers millions in clean up and security costs.

    While your stated aims of OWS are honorable, I have not heard those concerns stated in any cohesive fashion by the people who are actually occupying.

    In fact, in most cities, the "movement" has dissolved into the same old poverty pimp crap...homelessness, drug treatment on demand etc.

    Ironically, with more than a dozen cities involved in Canada, the original demand for more regulation of banks and investment companies turned the whole thing into a joke...as Canada has and has had stiff regulations in place for decades. Then the occupiers were abashed when they learned their primary issue of corporations running government was a wash...since corporate donations to political parties have been illegal in Canada have been illegal for almost two decades.

    I find it disgusting that leftist ideology and professional poverty pimping by these pampered designer jeans clad protesters have squandered what is likely the greatest opportunity for change we have seen in half a century.

    And, I suggest you actually read the literature you reference as, what you say is more Brave New World than 1984.
     
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    It just never dies does it? Blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush. When that runs out, blame dRepublicans.

    C'mon, Owebama has had three years. He has had an historic absolute control of the House and Senate for two years. He had the greatest opportunity of ANY modern president to affect change and unlike Reagan had everything on his side....

    But it's still all Bush's fault.

    If GWB was that powerful how come he isn't king of the freakin' world.

    Time to grow up, take ownership and fix what's wrong. The only problem is, like every alcoholic knows, you can't fix the problem until you admit there is one...and in this case is it is an egotistical, thin skinned, incompetent sleaze bag hustler with no experience in running anything whose only political ability is in attacking and blaming others.
     
  15. PatriotNews

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    I like these two charts. Only the first one doesn't explain why the POOP's (People of occupy protesters) are socialist idiots.
     
  16. Johnny-C

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    Eventually Fox News will lose its 'relevance' as a turd does with a GIANT FLUSHING of water in a toilet.

    In due time, the American people will see they've been 'manipulated' (especially by Fox) and FLUSH... just as I've described above.

    Fox isn't the ONLY problem with America, but they WILL eventually reap the whirlwind they have sown.
     
  17. NoPartyAffiliation

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    Okay so a few Conservs have rung in with posts that are at least, something other than the usual, and at best made legitimate points.

    Someone talked about Obama having a chance to be historical and having many advantages when he took over. While he also had several disadvantages, I agree that he took a chance a greatness and blew it being just another suit. He kept a lot of his promises but broke some critical ones - like the lobbyists in the WH thing, producing a POS health plan that does nothing for anyone but insurance companies etc... So on that I agree completely. BTW, so do a lot of Occupiers. We view Obama the way Churchill viewed Democracy. Right now, Obama is the very worst presidential choice possible, except all the others.

    Someone else talked about OWS being started by the secret rich underground or someone and then a bunch poor people being used. The only group who anyone has been able to trace OWS to, prior to October, is Anonymous.
    Personally, it seems to me like the reverse is true. The poor, the homeless who once had something etc... started it from the bottom and has worked its' way up. I personally thought our movement was nothing but disgusting whackjobs at first. Then it occured to me that, that's exactly what I thought about the Tea Party before I went to a rally and then to a meeting at someone's house. So although there are definitely some real grungies in there, what has evolved impresses me. It's weird.
     

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