The 1stA doesnt cover twitter...

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct.

    It's like "ignore" function on the forum.

    Everyone else you sent it to sees it but not the recipient blocking you.
     
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    OK. I misunderstood. I agree. Blocking would be fine. It would be illegal for him to delete tweets assuming the account owner can do that.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also, Trump can't shut down someone's account on Twitter, only Twitter can do that by banning you.

    The federal government has zero control over Twitter's policies.

    If Twitter had to abide by those policies, they'd be bankrupt by now.
     
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    The POTUS is simply a user of the platform, just as if, for example, he decided to create an account here.
     
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    Yes. The same rules would apply to him here.
     
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    Because the dumbshit doesn't listen to intelligent individuals, that's why. The Manhattan Dumbshit can tweet whatever dumbshit he wants, even if those very tweets give way to criminal prosecution.
     
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    of course, you are the legal expert :)
     
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    it is not trumps account, it is a white house account, or it better be, because then he is breaking the 1950 records act. if he was given permission to use his personal account, then that account becomes subject to the federal guidelines.
     
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    I can read the part where it says government will pass no laws or control freedom of speech.

    The government doesn't control Twitter, has passed no laws against it preventing freedom of speech, and no one prevented this individual from Tweeting.

    Are you saying the POTUS is preventing this individual from sending out Tweets, because we both know that's just silly.

    What probably happened here is that you have a judge who does not understand the platform or technology in general.

    I'm sure that will all be explained when a judge who does understand overturns it.
     
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    The account belongs to Twitter.

    How do we know?

    We know because Twitter disabled it for a few days.

    Sure, it's a federal record, just like Comy's memos and Hillary's emails.

    That doesn't mean he has to read every tweet sent to him.
     
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    I dont believe he is correct. You can mute or you can block. If you mute then you cannot see their messages but if you block they cannot see or reply to your tweets. You don't recieve notice if you are muted but you do know if someone blocks you.
     
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    for the 3rd time, 1950 records act.
     
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    correct, he doesnt have to read the tweets nor the wh website comments, but he cannot block them.
     
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    ...apply to his Tweets, not to the person he blocked.

    Is the person he blocked a member of the government?
     
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    Doesn't change the fact the records are available, per the Records Act, just not immediately available to everyone, like thousands and thousands of other records...
     
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    That's what blocking does.

    Does the federal government have to accept every piece of communication directed at them?
     
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    It's funny how the Hillary supporters suddenly understand the Records Act huh?
     
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    scary stuff. If a US citizen may not block people from their virtual world, how long before judges tell us we can't block people from our real world?

    I remember reading something about it being 'transphobic' for straights ('cis-genders') to refuse to date/bump uglies with transgenders....

    how long before Progressiveville's exalted jurists deny straights that right?
     
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    Back in my days a kick to the nut sack and a knock down drag out ended the friendship, in todays Manshe world taking you off facebook or banning you from a Twit'r is not only a reason to actually cry but the ultimate slap in the face..
     
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    I'm sure it's limited just to Republican politicians.
     
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    Oh and by the way, do you mean like Obama did the last few weeks of his term?

    Why was he blocking people?

    https://mashable.com/2017/01/23/white-house-switchboard-facebook-messenger/#tHUVtOnaisqA

    The comment line (that's 202-456-1111 for anyone who wants to call) states in a recording that the "comments line is currently closed." But that's not all; instead, it urges the caller to send the president an online comment. At that point it gives you two options.


    First, you can go to the White House website and leave an online comment. The second is for the more social media-savvy. It asks commenters to head to the White House Facebook page and leave comments via Messenger.


    A reporter pointed out the Facebook redirect message Monday on Twitter, but it looks like the comments line was closed during the last few week's of Obama's presidency.


    On Twitter, posts from early January mentioned the closed line and the Washington Times reported the line was not working more than a week ago, before Donald Trump took office.
     
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    Twitter and Facebook have evolved into being an open political forum.

    Trump has proclaimed that his Twitter and Facebook posts are his official statements.

    Therefore it is a violation of the 1st Amendment to block someone simply due to their political views.

    Now, if they are cursing and harrassing and insulting, that's different
     
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    Well, I can see both sides on this one. If Trump's twitter account is part of how he communicates for his job, I would think that it should be open to the public. Twitter is not a place for classified material.
     
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    Even if this is true, it does not stop someone's ability to communicate.

    A user blocked from an account "can no longer follow you, @-reply to you, and you stop seeing their tweets in your timeline", according to Twitter policy.

    That does not remove your 1A rights. You can still use Twitter to say whatever you want TO THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW YOU.

    Don't forget, Twitter is a subscriber platform. You only see the tweets you WANT to see by following the PEOPLE you want to listen to.

    Not to mention there are a million other platforms when you can discuss your ideas.

    Being blocked simply means they can't reply, follow, or see your comments on Twitter.

    Since there is no requirement on the platform, or for the federal government to show you every federal record, your freedom of speech is not being infringed.
     

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