The absolute zenith of lunacy

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Per the ACTUAL REPORTING, as opposed to the bovine excrement in the OP, the child is both happy and healthy and the mother is NOT giving him any drugs whatsoever!

    Next time the OP should do his own RESEARCH before posting CLICKBAIT tirades with ZERO substance and credibility.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don’t think you should be as dismissive. The OP made some accusations which appear to directly contradicted by the actual reporting and he doubled down on those accusations even after this had been pointed out. You seem to be doing the same. How is it possible to have reasonable discussions about this kind of topic without clear and accurate understanding of the basic facts?

    Well the link given in post #2 seems to give a detailed and balanced report of the evidence given by both sides in the court case and therefore is fairly clear on what both parents they want (at least say they want). Again, there is nothing in that about any clinical treatment other than as a hypothetical future possibility so, as with the OP, you could really do to link where you’ve read that. Maybe there is further information not in the linked report or maybe you’ve been misled by a biased source. Surely it’s important to clarify which in the case if we’re going to discuss it.

    Don’t worry. I’m not a “lefty”, I’m a Joe. :cool:
     
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    The Kid is seven. The possibility that The idea that this is all his idea is vanishingly small. This is like people who claim they have a vegetarian cat. You can bet your ass the cat isn't the one making the decision.
     
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    Apparently you didn't bother to read all of it. Note according to the article there is intention to begin under going puberty suppression when the boy hits 8 or 9 which will quite possibly be his age by the time this shin dig is over.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The statement HereWeGoAgain was responding to was; "She is injecting him with chemicals to turn him into a girl, including chemical castration.". That statement was and remains an outright lie. It is necessary to cut through such lies before we can even consider discussing the facts.
     
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    That is what suppressing puberty eventually leads to you know.
     
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    10 years from now when this abused child murders his mother for what she did to him, he should be acquitted of all charges.
     
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    Suppressing puberty leads to suppression of puberty. Actual medical gender transition would be a separate procedure that could only happen much later. Regardless, the report on the court proceedings only mention the child being referred to the clinic for puberty suppression in the future and says nothing about medical gender transition at all. The OP statement of “She is injecting him with chemicals to turn him into a girl, including chemical castration.“ remains an outright lie. I’m not sure why you’re so reluctant to accept that simple fact. :cool:
     
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    The future in this case is quite possibly less than a year away.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The OP statement of “She is injecting him with chemicals to turn him into a girl, including chemical castration.“ remains an outright lie. I’m not sure why you’re so reluctant to accept that simple fact. :cool:"
     
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    Then how do you explain the trial.
     
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    Obviously you never bothered to read about the trial or the evidence that was presented at the trial establishing that the child was happy and healthy and was NOT being given any drugs.

    So the explanation is that the OP was just a load of clickbait bovine excrement.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It’s a child custody case. Unfortunately they often see both parents offering evidence speaking against each other’s parenting. There’s actually no guarantee any of the evidence is entirely accurate or honest and obviously some of it will be directly contradictory.

    None of that justifies you simply making up outright lies about the situation and not providing any link to try to avoid getting caught. You've done this too kind of thing far too often. Nobody is going to believe the little shepherd boy has actually seen a wolf any more.
     
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    That is obviously where the wife wants to go. Why do you doubt the obvious?
     
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    The mom essentially wants the kid to be able to dress like a girl if he wants and to be called Luna … which he wants.

    Puberty suppression wouldn't start until 11 and a half years of age at the earliest. The kid is currently seven.
     
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    At some point the lunatic element will go so far that even the Left Democrat fringe element will have to acknowledge that their behavior is insanity.
     
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    Nope the dad says he wants none of that crap. And when he is with the day never mentions any of that crap. The court case shows two very conflicting narratives and no real evidence to support either.
     
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    I guess everyone assumes that the three therapists are under the mom's thumb? Also, I wonder if the court actually asked the kid? I'd guess that he may be telling his father what he thinks he wants to hear … but the same could be said about what he's telling his mother also I guess.
     
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    It's even worse brainwashing than raising your child to believe in gods and afterlifes.
     
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    From the article:

    "Georgulas said that James first wanted a girls’ toy from McDonald’s and soon after started imitating the female characters from Disney’s Frozen and asking to wear dresses."

    So based on this, she took the boy to GENecis clinic at Children’s Hospital Center

    https://www.childrens.com/specialti...inology/programs-and-services/genecis-program

    This company is both a social activist company as well as a drug and hormone therapy center and is obviously very Pro-Trans.

    So based on a little boy, who likely got a lot of attention for liking girls toys imitating female characters, and is now going to make a life altering decision for a boy less than 10 years old.

    Absolutely disgusting, he will rightfully sue his mother in a decade
     
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    Honestly Joe, I'm really old school, so I doubt there's much hope for me when it comes to talking about gender dysphoria. There are far too many bizarre inconsistencies with the notion to really take it seriously. Like how a guy who claims that he suffers from gender dysphoria, so what does he do? Well, he starts wearing pink frilly dresses and demands to be called she and her. It's like they start going after all of the things they think typify women, when that's merely from a eurocentric perspective.

    This bit about pronouns is not gender specific, nor is wearing a dress, or changing your name from Bob to Sharon.

    Personally, I think Bob is trying a bit too hard to be taken seriously.
     
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    You’re only seeing inconsistencies because you’re assuming everyone should behave the same way. The reality is that we’re talking about a vast range of different types of people. Actual gender dysphoria is much more complicated than you give it credit and often won’t result in people behaving in the simplistic manner you describe, or indeed in any way that is apparent from the outside. There will also be a whole range of people who don’t have gender dysphoria but behave in different ways that cause people to incorrectly associate them with the category, often negatively. And then you get a whole load of people who will deliberately lie, spin and misrepresent the facts because they want to make certain individuals or groups look bad for whatever weird reasons of their own.

    So, I’d suggest you don’t try to understand all transgender people or people with gender dysphoria, don’t try to understand the stereotypes and images. Just try to understand the individuals, real people with a whole set of complex and often conflicting thoughts and feelings, pretty much exactly the same as you and I do.
     
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    Then it's just a lot of nothing, since you admit that there's nothing apparent from the outside. People can have all the gender dysphoria they want, and since I won't even notice, then no problemo.

    It might be something to people suffering from this, but you're still stuck with the problem of how some guy can think he is a woman. It's like me thinking I'm Napoleon. How do you know? Well, there's no physical difference allowed, no mental difference, so... good luck and happy dysphoriaing.
     
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    I didn’t say that, I said that individuals are all different. Sometimes it won’t be apparent to you (especially in casual passing) but sometimes it will. The problem is that you’re judging a vast range and number of different people on the basis of your limited perceptions of a small subsection. It’s like seeing a Catholic Mass and then being confused when Protestants, Muslims and Jews don’t worship in exactly the same way.

    The medical professionals and patients are able to understand and they’re the only ones who really need to (though better understanding among politicians and the legal profession might be useful too). Your inability to understand is only your problem, unless you choose to impose your problem on other people of course. Simply recognising that there are some things you don’t understand is one thing. Expecting people to be treated differently on the basis that what they’re saying can’t be true because you don’t understand it becomes a wider issue.

    And that is essentially what so much of this boils down to. We all naturally find ignorance frightening.
     
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