The afterlife

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  1. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

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    Some aspects of evolutionary biology have evidence. The concept that one order of animal can change onto another cannot be proven because we have never seen it happen.

    You guys are full of crap.
     
  2. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes, the old hail mary pass. And if you are wrong and the intelligent actually inherit the afterlife?
     
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    Sorry but f you don't understand how evolution actually works you shoud not pretend that one animal changing instantly into another animal is the criteria.

    And just for yucks why don't you give us your theory about how the diversity of life has occurred on our planet.
     
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    I am not suggesting one animal turns into another one instantly. The fossil reccord hell, even many modern animals are similar to eachother and extinct animals.
    It is pure speculation that these related animals were once the same or had a common ancestors. Lots if evolutionary biologists have FAITH that they did though.
    Even though humans have never witnessed it happen.
    Given that animals go extinct it's common sense to assume that there used to be wider varieties of animals and that many of thoes were similar to one another. Even more similar than what we see today.
    Point being some elements of evolution, like survival of the fittest we can observe and say that they are at least mostly true.
    Evidence for evolution being the impetus for one species becoming another over time is much less concrete maybe even more jello like. However even though it's not proven many people look at bones and believe that it's the proper interpretation of the bones and believe it... By FAITH.
     
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    Religion is almost certainly a gigantic hoax, Spooks.

    But hey, good luck to ya and all your fellow believers in childish creation stories.

    You're most likely really gunna need it...
     
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    Scientists have witnessed speciation under laboratory conditions.

    All that remains is for the new species to accumulate differences.

    This HAS ben witnssed. As for the "faith" idea, you and everyone in the world is free to become totally and fabulously famous by finding an alternative theory.
     
  7. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are we going to need it?

    You folks coming after us or something?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well you will be as screwed as I am I guess.
     
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    Let's hear your creation story. This should be good.
     
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    That's just flat out not true.

    The annual Templeton Prize, which recognizes outstanding contributions to "affirming life's spiritual dimension," was awarded Tuesday to Brazilian Marcelo Gleiser -- a theoretical physicist dedicated to demonstrating science and religion are not enemies.

    An agnostic, he doesn't believe in God -- but refuses to write off the possibility of God's existence completely.

    "Atheism is inconsistent with the scientific method," Gleiser told AFP Monday from Dartmouth College, the New Hampshire university where he has taught since 1991.

    "Atheism is a belief in non-belief. So you categorically deny something you have no evidence against."

    "When you hear very famous scientists making pronouncements like ... cosmology has explained the origin of the universe and the whole, and we don't need God anymore. That's complete nonsense," he added.

    "Because we have not explained the origin of the universe at all."

    https://news.yahoo.com/physicist-marcelo-gleiser-science-does-not-kill-god-090100672.html
    Also

    Brian Leslie Weiss (born November 6, 1944) is an American psychiatrist, hypnotherapist, and author who specializes in past life regression. His research includes purported reincarnation, past life regression, future life progression, and survival of the human soul after death.
    Weiss studied at Columbia University, and later graduated from the Yale University School of Medicine in 1970, completing an internship in internal medicine at the New York University Medical Center then returning to Yale for a two-year residency in psychiatry. He went on to become Head of Psychiatry, Mount Sinai Medical Center, Miami

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Weiss
     
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    You know what I'm sayin', Spooks.

    Try to live your life here TO THE FULL … cuz you, me, Bobby Allen, and all the rest probably ain't goin' anywhere after we croak...
     
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    I am living my life to the fullest.

    Do you honestly think non Christian people live happier lives than Christian ones?

    I think that's the problem many of you have. You think you are losing something by being a Christian when you aren't.
     
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    There are relatively few people on this planet that I'd want to trade places with, Spooks... 8)
     
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    Still waiting to hear your creation story.
     
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    Why are you on the religion thread?
     
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    No it isn't. There are people who believe virtually anything, disproved or proved.
     
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    There is evidence for all of it. Evolution is very very slow process. It doesn't happen in real time except with some viruses. Nobody lives long enough to watch one species change in whole or in part into another.
     
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    You are right. I should have said believable by rational people.
     
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    And exactly what was Gleiser's definition of god? And as for Weiss. Just because you are educated and apparently competent ( or were competant at one time) in one area lends zero credability to your opinions in other areas.

    And I stand by my statement there is no scientific evidence for an afterlife. And NDEs and birthmarks are not evidence.
     
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    I have been demending god strike me dead for decades and so far I am still here. As solid a proof of non existance as anyone could possibly ask for. I mean think of all the supposed stunts it pulled in the past. Striking me with lightening should be easy.
     
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    Birthmarks may not qualify as "scientific evidence," but when a child is born with birthmarks of bullet entrance and exit wounds in the chest and later conveys a memory of the previous lifetime experience of that event, such facts compel recognition.
     
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    There is no objective assessment of existence/nonexistence for something that is outside of our space-time, beyond the reality of our 4 dimensions.
     
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    My main purpose here, Sammy, is to serve as a much-needed reality check for brainwashed, delusional believers.

    With, of course, a lil help from some homies like Tice and the late Hawk...





     
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    What kind of Christian? Your kind? Lose something by becoming a Christian? Yes, logic to start with.
     
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    Supposed evidence and memories? Which came first, the chicken or the egg ?
     

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