The Anti-Empire Report #159

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, US ties to Hitler's regime were personified by men such as Prescott Bush.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    If the US demanded that Iraq not invade Kuwait, why in hell did it not say so when he asked?

    Because it set him up, that's why. The MIC wanted a nice little war there, and it made it happen.
     
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    So, Sadam didn't want a war, but America wanted a war.
    I love how people can turn historic facts on their head.
    It's a bit like Hitler saying "the Jews want war" and "the
    Jews have overrun Europe."
     
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    Yes, the US wanted the war, and not for the first time in history took overt action to achieve that goal. Mission Accomplished!
     
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    Made up BS

    Q: In April, what was your assessment of what the Americans would do--what was April Glaspie saying?

    Aziz: She didn't tell us anything strange. She didn't tell us in the sense that we concluded that the Americans will not retaliate. That was nonsense you see. It was nonsense to think that the Americans would not attack us. In the early hours of the 2nd of August, the whole apparatus of the leadership took precautions for an American speedy immediate retaliation.
    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/oral/aziz/1.html
     
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    Its made up BS.
     
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    He never asked. They are feeding you **** and you eat it up so eagerly.
     
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    What is not nonsense is that I watched the CSPAN coverage of Glaspie's testimony before Congress, in English. Her testimony there comported with the news accounts of that.

    You offer me some innocuous and rather vague verbiage from a man who speaks Iraqi, and expect me to believe your attempted revision of the historical record. You and PBS, another government mouthpiece.

    What's made up is your effort to revise history in favor of some propaganda effort.
     
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    What mission is that?
    To fight, or to create the democratic Iraq of today?
     
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    So full of ****. There is a transcript of the entire meeting. That's why you instead make up some BS about what you saw on CSPAN instead.
    She told them that their border dispute with Kuwait wasn't out concern. A DISPUTE as to the exact location of the border, not the existence of the border.
     
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    lol They dont have enough guns.....
     
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    To keep the US in a military conflict with the attendant corruption and profits for war profiteers.

    Do you remember the pictures early on of CPA head Paul Bremer rolling around wheelbarrows full of shrink-wrapped US currency? Pretty much heaven for anybody that might skim a few bags. 60 Minutes covered it.
     
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    We just agree to disagree, my revisionist friend. That was all covered on CSPAN, and of course it was quite embarrassing for Bush & Co. Thus the effort to revise history that you enable.
     
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    So you were happy then with Obama who avoided conflict?
    Obama gave Iran the long-term opportunity to go nuclear;
    ignored Russian/Syrian use of chemical weapons; turned
    a blind eye to Chinese encroachment in the South Pacific
    and did nothing to support Ukraine, Crimea and Georgia.

    1 - What went wrong with your military industrial complex?

    2 - Are these four examples policy failures in your eyes, or
    will they result, long-term, in making the world a better place?
     
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    Nah, because you are just full of ****.

    GLASPIE: I think I understand this. I have lived here for years. I admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. I know you need funds. We understand that and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.

    I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 60's. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction. We hope you can solve this problem using any suitable methods via Klibi or via President Mubarak. All that we hope is that these issues are solved quickly. With regard to all of this, can I ask you to see how the issue appears to us?
    https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/glaspie.html
     
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    In fact, it would appear that you even made up your 5 word quote. The only quote you provided. "a matter of inter-arab"
     
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    I'll be leaving it at this Dixon: In an unusual turn of events for me, during that time there was about 2 weeks of time when I was watching CSPAN on a regular basis. What's funny is that I had not watched it much before that time, and have not watched it much since that time.

    Glaspie's testimony was on CSPAN, and I watched much of it.

    You come along today with some vague quotes in English, by an Iraqi figure, and now want me to believe differently than what I heard at the time.

    Sorry dude, it ain't gonna happen. I know how Bush Sr. worked, and I know a tiny player in the loans guaranteed to Saddam.

    Your posts here are either made from complete misunderstanding of what transpired, or you yourself are a victim of the revision of historical events, as the government is want to do. Either way, you are entitled to your beliefs. I know better.
     
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    Looks like this isn't going to be answered.
     
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    Actually, I provided the actual quotes from Saddam's interpreter and Gillespie herself from their meeting. BUT I understand why you now need to pretend I haven't. Because the quotes demonstrate how truly full of **** you are.

    LOLOL!!!!! A tv show and your vague memory of it from years ago isn't a historical event.
     
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    Poorly phrased and petty questions are often NOT answered by this poster.
     
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    These are the "petty" questions.
    They weren't answered because the only answers possible
    would embarrass you.


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    So you were happy then with Obama who avoided conflict?
    Obama gave Iran the long-term opportunity to go nuclear;
    ignored Russian/Syrian use of chemical weapons; turned
    a blind eye to Chinese encroachment in the South Pacific
    and did nothing to support Ukraine, Crimea and Georgia.

    1 - What went wrong with your military industrial complex?
    2 - Are these four examples policy failures in your eyes, or
    will they result, long-term, in making the world a better place?
     

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