The Battle of January 6th Has Just Begun

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  1. Condor060

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    We have been. Since November of 2016. And whats the batting average thus far?
    1000/Zero
     
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    Weird worshipers of one dude wallow in hyper-partisan hysteria, but we are a nation of laws, not of God Emperors.

    The Trump goons' attack on our democracy is not about to be swept under the carpet, and justice will be served.



     
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    Bannon is turning the tables right back on them...

    It is called discovery....

    The committee would be in contempt as well by not turning over all their discovery.
    The committee is charging him with contempt and they’re okay with that, but when you charge someone with a crime, you must turn over all the evidence you claim they have on them. That’s where the corrupt committee has a problem.
    The corrupt J6 committee is scared to death as Steve Bannon is using the same tactics against them, they are trying to use on everyone else. He has filed papers to force the committee to turn over all of the material, including their communications with each other.

    The same thing happened when one of the 13 the Russians charged with collusion by Mueller actually sent legal representation to challenge the charge... as soon as "discovery" was brought up the DOJ dropped the case like a hot potato...( or potatoe if you're Dan Quayle)

    https://uafreport.com/theoneadmin/t...6th-witch-hunt-walks-right-into-bannons-trap/

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...e-scared-truth-bannons-subpoenas-scare-death/

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve...-up-the-whole-system?source=email&via=desktop

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.237438/gov.uscourts.dcd.237438.12.0_1.pdf

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.237438/gov.uscourts.dcd.237438.14.2_1.pdf

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    Nor should it be swept under the rug. While the protest turned into some rioting, I don't think they will find where anyone connected to Trump planned it to happen.
     
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    I, as ever, reserve judgement and expect that full disclosure will clarify the matter.
     
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    Again, that demands cooperation and disclosure, not hiding behind the fifth amendment and frivolous claims of executive privilege.

    Expose the truth, and let culpability be properly assigned.
     
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    Hiding behind the fifth Amendment...hiding? The fifth Amendment is there for a very good reason, it isn’t hiding, it ensures due process. The government already has more than enough power to abuse.
     
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    Same goes for the Congress communications before during and after... no "Not public information" from Pelosi who was oversight and responsible for proper security that would have prevented 1/6 from happening... Including Capitol security video which has never been released.. especially the Capitol security vid from Byrds side of the doors when Ashli was shot.
     
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    All patriotic Americans must support exposing the machinations behind the goons' January 6 attack upon our democratic process, regardless of where culpability may fall.

    The truth should not be suppressed, despite some having a vested interest in hiding it.
     
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    The violent attack upon democracy in which 140 outnumbered police defending Congress were injured by goons should, clearly, be addressed by a bipartisan commission in the interests of national security, but one hyper-partisan faction defeated that appropriate investigative undertaking in which all aspects could have been exposed:

     
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    MY, my, my.... How soon we forget...

    Pelosi vetoes Banks, Jordan for Jan. 6 select committee

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/...anks-jordan-for-jan-6-select-committee-500424
     
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    I hate to disappoint, but this is not the future of American democracy:

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    The Fifth Amendment right is Constitutionally guaranteed.
     
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    Yes. The right to refuse to answer questions in order to avoid incriminating oneself is well-established.

    Meanwhile, more Trump goons are being brought to justice:


    A federal judge has refused to throw out a key charge against two men accused of storming the U.S. Capitol to obstruct the Electoral College vote certification proceedings, upholding prosecutors' use of a criminal statute that many other riot defendants are charged with violating.

    U.S. District Judge Dabney Friedrich ruled on Friday that an obstruction charge applies to the Justice Department's case against Ronald Sandlin and Nathaniel DeGrave...

    A day before Trump's Jan. 6 “Stop the Steal” rally, Sandlin and DeGrave drove to Washington, D.C., with two pistols, knives, a stun gun, walkie talkies, bear mace and paramilitary gear, according to prosecutors. The men pushed several Capitol police officers guarding a door to the Capitol rotunda and went to the Senate gallery, where they wrestled with officers to get inside, prosecutors said.

    ... Trump nominated Friedrich to the court in 2017.

    https://news.yahoo.com/judge-refuses-toss-key-charge-170432615.html

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    Yeah, the protests of Jan 6 will not be the last. Populism will not go away, it won’t be defeated by a totalitarian state response, and it will long outlast Trump and your obsession with him.
     
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    What happened on Jan 6th was not a "populist protest." It was a violent riot in support of Trump's planned totalitarian takeover. I'm sure it will continue. It will probably be back by 2024, if not 2022. Hopefully these attempts to subvert our democratic elections will continue to fail, but I won't deny that they are growing stronger under the continued influence of Trump.
     
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    @Durandal

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    Just wanted to let you know that your avatar seems to be in agreement with the "Let's go, Brandon" movement.
     
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    Yes, the bombastic rhetoric of the Loser and his camp followers will undoubtedly persist, but justice being done and being seen to be done in the case of the Trump goons who attacked Congress and savaged the outnumbered police is an affirmation of American jurisprudence.

    The alienated malcontents will continue to snivel and crap on our values, but democratic institutions are capable of handling it.


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    Well stated. and spot on !!!
     
  22. Xyce

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    Fact: the only person to die on January 6th was Ashli Babbit, a small-statured, unarmed woman whose only crime was trespassing and was shot to death by an able-bodied male. Compare this to the dozes of people killed in the BLM-Antifa summertime riots (1).

    Fact: January 6th was one day. The BLM-Antifa riots lasted for months.

    Fact: January 6th cost $1.5 million in damages. (2) BLM-Antifa riots cost $2 billion in damages. (3) For those trying to do the math at home, the BLM-Antifa riots cost 133,333.33% more than January 6th in property damage.

    Verdict: Those who are propping up January 6th are doing so out of political expedience. They do not care about rioting in general; they care about who is doing the rioting and if that can be used for their political advantage. If they cared about rioting on the grounds of pure morality, then there would be a commission on the BLM-Antifa rioting, as that factually, statistically was more costly in loss of life and property by extraordinary magnitudes in comparison to January 6th.

    1. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled
    2. https://www.axios.com/jan-6-insurre...say-8040f266-c4f5-4f3e-8df3-512616796b76.html
    3. https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/riots-following-george-floyds-death-could-cost-up-to-2b/
     
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    Not even one sentence in and you are already incorrect.
     
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    No, it's correct: only Ashli Babbit, a small-statured, unarmed woman, was the only person to die on January 6th by being shot to death for trespassing.
     
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    She was not the only person to die. She was the only person to die by being shot, sure (though it wasn't simple trespassing), but she wasn't the only person to die.
     

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