The beginning of the end of free speech

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Hate Speech Laws were being enforced, and you should know this. Hitler was banned from speaking in many parts of Germany and he used this to his advantage.

    Germans appear to be learning nothing from their history. Their aggression still remains.
     
  2. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    But not in all parts, eh? And not all courts and police forces / officials forbade it, eh? So the law was given, but not used!
    Also ... in his election campaigns he always theats again and again to eleminate the Republic and to wipe out the democracy and to kick out all the parties from parliamant. With our current constitution, he and his party will be banned and if still goeas on with it, he will go to jail!

    And what aggressions still remain please?
     
  3. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hitler did go to jail!! How come I know this and you don't? https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hitler-sent-to-landsberg-jail

    It's a part of German culture and anyone visiting there can see it. It's also true on these debate boards. Germans who have lived outside Germany for a while certainly recognize it whenever they return.
     
  4. JakeStarkey

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    I am not the one asserting that the beginning of the end of free speech is here.

    You are. Post evidence not feelz so I can rebut.
     
  5. Guess Who

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    I agree with the idea that too many damn wars for seemingly profits or those who want to rule the world. Also,I'm sick of man killing each other all the time but if there is a power void somebody will fill it for sure.
    So I have no answers like most of us just question that will not be answered. Not in this world anyway.


     
  6. DivineComedy

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    First, there is no fact to back up that MoHamMad is worthy of worship, no fact to back up the existence of any god, certainly no fact to excuse MoHamMad’s slaves, your court established he was worthy of worship by tipping the scales from neutral. Using the logic you just displayed, it becomes hate speech only if you tip the scales that MoHamMad is worthy of worship with no backing.

    "(3) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection." (Book #62, Hadith #137)"

    There is a fact, now MoHamMad is unworthy of worship. {period}


    Second, it was Abraham they said was their father, Abraham had no law books, what Jesus was trying to point out is simple; our father is God. If your father is Paul, you follow Paul, if your father is a Book, you follow a Book; Abraham followed God, Jesus followed God, the Jews were following a Book, and the Black Stone Idolaters of Islam follow a Book.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+3&version=KJV

    Genesis cannot be part of Christianity, because Genesis happened here, the Old Testament cannot be a part of Christianity, because the Old Testament happened here, none of it happed on Planet P or Planet LV426 or…Christianity is about following God not the Earthlings.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Great ... and who was guilty that he got for treason crime not the correct penalty, but only this rediculous bullcrap, eh?

    I know this all man and much more. But you obviously read it somewhere but don't take the complete issue. Please learn more history!

    Lol ... An American calls us Germans to have an aggressive culture? You make my day ... this like a mass murder acusse a robber to be a robber man!
    Yes, we have a bad history, but be sure, the American history is same way evil in sum!
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Sorry ... but do you really believe this nonsense you write?
    If Mohamed is not worth for whorship, then no god or gods and prophets of any religin is worht for whorshipping at least ... what is btw my opinion as atheist.
    So in other words, if you deny this for Mohamed, it is the same way valid and correct to say about Jesus, the so called son of god!

    And about Old Testament ... read this for your own education:

    http://www.opc.org/new_horizons/NH01/0001b.html
     
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    On some planet in a galaxy far away there might me a guy named Tiny Tim (alien pronunciation may be incomprehensible), and he could be their Jesus, telling them to follow God instead of some crashed alien probe’s copy of a book on Brothel Etiquette that was stuffed behind some piece of equipment, let’s just hope he sings better:

    "[24.33] ... and do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, when they desire to keep chaste, in order to seek the frail good of this world's life; and whoever compels them, then surely after their compulsion Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

    Your link says, “we, who are not acquainted with the Old Testament in the way the first Christians were,” simply misses the point, the Romans, Greeks, and all the rest of the world were not in any way acquainted with the Old Testament, only the Jews were. It is not necessary to even know about any of this and follow God; they probably do it on countless planets in countless galaxies, just as Abraham did.

    “How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, “This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant?” Instead they say, “No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way.” A religion, old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the Universe as revealed by modern science might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths.” (Carl Sagan, Pale blue dot) https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/48918-how-is-it-that-hardly-any-major-religion-has-looked

    Understanding what Christianity is really all about, how we treat each other, is not in conflict with Carl Sagan.

    You said: “If Mohamed is not worth for whorship, then no god or gods and prophets of any religin is worht for whorshipping”

    That logic is simply flawed.

    If David Duke is not worthy of worship, that does not mean Gary Sinise is also unworthy.

    The Court should be completely neutral, and each person free to judge for themselves whether some thing or person is good and worthy of worship.

    You put your belief in a nutshell with your quote of Prussian King Frederick II, and the above quote, you worship the bias of the kingly State, and if your State is unworthy of worship, none are.
     

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