The boy who cried wolf

Trump's fans are fully aware of Trump's disastrous decisions. First, destroying the Iranian nuclear agreement. Then killing the second most powerful man in Iran without contemplating the consequences seen in post 50.

Some wish to change the subject because Trump's fans try very hard to avoid talking about Trump.

But most of Trump's fans have avoided the issue entirely.

 

The JCPOA is a joke. It deserves to be avoided.

 

Not all of us Sandy, but now that your #1 choice he little girl's hair sniffer has exhibited full tilt dementia, Who is your second choice for Prez.

 

Typical Anglo-Saxon mentality: “If [insert nation, tribe, religion here] doesn’t want to comply with our ways, kill ‘em all!”

And then they want to turn around and cry “Muslims bla bla apostasy bla bla.”

Indeed, truly evil hypocrisy.

 

Corn Pop?

 

You seem to be conflating several different issues
1. Reduce our foreign intervention.... this is not going to happen by assassinating Iranians in iraq
2. There is not much we can do about Iran building a bomb..... other than sticking to a previously negotiated agreement that would have exactly that effect
3. No great desire to cease.... but despite not having a desire to cease, they did agree to do that in the context of a negotiated agreement
4. Reduce terrorist activities..... well we do know that they INCREASED terrorist activities after we canceled our agreement and re instituted a maximum pressure campaign

 

......and blowing up one of their foremost terrorists. I suspect you don't like that either.

 

[QUOTE="Goomba, post: 1071312910, member: 57348"Typical Anglo-Saxon mentality: “If [insert nation, tribe, religion here] doesn’t want to comply with our ways, kill ‘em all!”[/QUOTE]
Another typical RACIST comment from a leftist.

 

"We" didn't cancel the agreement. Actually, the JCPOA is still in existence, although Iran copied Trump's example and made the agreement moot. Trump removed the U.S. from the agreement and replaced it with harsh sanctions which clearly are not working and have caused the mess we are in now.

We know one person who is happy with all of this -- Vladimir Putin. An impeached American President awaiting a trial in the Senate while causing an open ended asymmetric war with Iran. What's not to like?

 

You are simplifying the issue and ignoring the consequences of Trump's decision. Allow me to repeat an earlier post.

Thanks to Trump and his rueful decision back in May of 2018 there will be war with Iran, but not the kind one might think. Not a simple war. Iranian ships are not going to attack American ships in the Strait of Hormuz. The Persians are not suicidal, and they are not stupid.

It will be a complex, asymmetric war in which Iran will rely on her proxy forces, not her military. It may even involve cyber warfare, but Iran will retaliate. That is a certainty.

The problem is where, and who will be the targets, Americans or America's allies or both? Will it be the Houthi rebels in Yemen attacking our troops in Saudi Arabia or attacking the Saudi oil fields. The Houthis have done that in the past ... successfully.

Will it be Hamas attacking our interests and that of our Israeli allies on the West Bank?

Will it be Hezbollah attacking simultaneously in northern Israel or Israeli interests in Lebanon?

Will Iran's ally, the murderous dictator, Bashar al-Assad, take part in Iran's war with his army?

As if we haven't had enough problems in Iraq since 2003, then there are the Shiite militias. Tehran hosted and supported a number of powerful Shiite militias that were opposed to Saddam Hussein’s despotic rule. After he was ousted following the American invasion of Iraq in 2003, many of those militias were marshaled to fight U.S. troops.

Those same militia groups now have unprecedented political power in Iraq, with many senior figures winning seats in the country’s parliament. Their presence has given Iran additional influence over Iraq’s political landscape.

In this asymmetric war the U.S. will have a major problem with Iraq.

Some wonder if Trump and his fellow geniuses thought about all this when they decided to take out the Iranian general. Wouldn't it have been much simpler for Trump to admit he was wrong, reenter negotiations with Iran, restore the JCPOA, and remove the harsh sanctions that caused this mess?

 

So what you described is no different than what we could expect from Iran in the last several decades. They are on the brink of a revolt in spite of the fact they shoot their dissidents down like dogs. So let them retaliate. They lose their oil fields which we certainly will take out, their populace will definitely revolt. They don't want that. Their is a chance they are not insane and are just blowing hot air. We don't need a ground war. We just destroy their ability to sponsor terror and we do it by shutting down their economy. We no longer are hostage to their oil thanks to the President you so despise. We are not returning to the sluggish economy your Barrack Hussein Obama promised us was the "new normal". Get over it and get a life.

 

Wouldn't it be much simpler to give them more pallets of unmarked bills as well as remove all sanctions and bless them so they can go their way taunting the evil Satan of America? You sound more like Hanoi Jane.

 

I talk about Trump all the time. Also compare what he does to the previous administration in similar situations, which the Left usually never wants to talk about. That is usually because the other administration screwed up and they never complained about it when they did, but are more than ready to trounce on Trump no matter what he does.

I'm not sure I agree with Trump withdrawing from JCPOA or not. But it is a bad agreement. It gives Iran a chance to begin making nuclear weapons after ten years and blocks us from inspecting their military bases where they can be hiding nuclear material. You don't let the enemy inspect their self.

 

This is nothing short of incredible. In the unlikely event that the U.S. attacks Iran, the commander of our armed forces told the enemy exactly what we are going to do..

Politico reports, "President Donald Trump on Saturday warned Iran that the U.S. has identified dozens of sites to be hit "very fast and very hard" if it retaliates for the killing of military leader Qassem Soleimani.

“Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader,” Trump tweeted. “Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have ... targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!'"

What a buffoon. As his impeachment trial in the Senate looms, Trump wants to change the subject while, at the same time, making himself feel important. Americans are laughing at him. Iranians are laughing at him. And our allies are laughing at him.

The militarily ignorant commander just made a complete fool of himself Informing the enemy as to our intentions is remarkably stupid.

 

Trump is losing it.

Not satisfied with just starting a war with Iran, Trump decides this is a good time to threaten Iraq, too.

On Sunday, just days after the U.S. strike that killed the powerful Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani, the Trump administration got its first real taste of international pushback. The Iraqi parliament voted to oust American troops from the country and Tehran announced that it would pull completely out of its obligations under the 2015 nuclear deal.

The pushback didn’t come in the form of a targeted strike on a major American outpost or U.S. service member, but combined, the two events served as a wakeup call for officials in Washington who for days had tried desperately to manage the fallout of the Soleimani strike.

President Donald Trump’s truculent response? Threaten Iraq with sanctions if it expels U.S. troops: “If they do ask us to leave, if we don’t do it in a very friendly basis, we will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever. It’ll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/iraq-...lled-qassem-soleimani?source=articles&via=rss

Trump is going to a lot of trouble to divert attention away from his Senate impeachment trial, but, for him, there is a bright side. No doubt his patron, Vladimir Putin, is quite pleased with his performance.

 

I wondered how long it would take you to bump it to the top. You didn't let me down.
Your Trump Putin thing is getting worn thin.

 

I know you do, but I said defending him. You rarely defend Trump when others are criticizing him. This thread proves my point.

You are wrong in every respect because you have gotten your information from Trump-friendly sites. The JCPOA permanently barred Iran from making a nuke, and the IAEA had access to all sites, including military sites. https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-fact-check-trump-iran-deal-20180508-story.html

 

But you can't prove me wrong.

Do you think Putin wanted Trump to be our President because he liked Trump's hairstyle?

 

A typical Trump supporter wanting still another Middle East war. We haven't finished the ones we started eighteen years ago.

But, of course, as shown by the remark, that doesn't matter.

 

We have had this discussion before. Please stop editing my posts. You should know better.

 

The Latest: Iran says working with IAEA to answer questions
November 11, 2019




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In this photo released by the official website of the office of the Iranian Presidency, President Hassan Rouhani speaks at a public gathering in the city of Rafsanjan in Iran's southwest Kerman province, Monday, Nov. 11, 2019. Rouhani on Monday called on hard-liners to support the country's troubled nuclear deal, saying it could open up international arms sales for the Islamic Republic next year. (Office of the Iranian Presidency via AP)
VIENNA (AP) — The Latest on the Iran nuclear deal (all times local)

The IAEA said in its latest report that uranium of a man-made origin has been discovered “at a location in Iran not declared to the agency.”

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5 p.m.

The United Nations’ nuclear watchdog says uranium of a man-made origin has been discovered “at a location in Iran not declared to the agency.”

The revelation from International Atomic Energy Agency is the first time it has acknowledged in a report that allegations made by the U.S. and Israel against Iran are true.

The IAEA did not identify the site in the confidential quarterly report distributed to member states and seen by The Associated Press on Monday.

However, Israel and the U.S. say the site was on the outskirts of Tehran, a location previously described by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as a “secret atomic warehouse.”

Israel has alleged that material at the site comes from an Iranian military program involving work on nuclear weapons. Iran denies pursuing nuclear weapons and says its program is peaceful.

The U.N. atomic watchdog says Iran’s stockpiles of low-enriched uranium are still growing in violation of the 2015 nuclear deal.

In a confidential quarterly report distributed to member states, the International Atomic Energy Agency said Iran’s stockpile of low-enriched uranium still exceeds the amount allowed by the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA. The report was seen Monday by The Associated Press. (Read more) https://apnews.com/754216d369fa49cbaa3631f01a13e3da
Iran rejects US demand for inspection of military sites
January 15, 2018

https://www.mei.edu/publications/iran-rejects-us-demand-inspection-military-sites-0




The IAEA said in its latest report that uranium of a man-made origin has been discovered “at a location in Iran not declared to the agency.”

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What am I to defend Sandy, this?

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Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26 https://www.forbes.com/.../trumps-policy-magic-wand.../...

How does having more people working at any times in our history, having the lowest unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics, in their history and having the highest stock market in our history and the biggest wage gains sense 2007 working for you? September 8 at 5:12 AM ·

Record 157,878,000 Employed in August
“The number of people employed in the United States hit a record 157,878,000 in August, the 21st record set under President Donald Trump, according to the employment report released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics,” Susan Jones reports for CNS News.
“The unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent. For blacks, the unemployment rate dropped to a record low of 5.5 percent last month. And for Hispanics, the... Unemployment rate was 4.2 percent in August, which ties the record low set earlier this year.”
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“It’s been a lost summer for the Washington Post,” White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham and Principal Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley write in the Washington Examiner. “Despite record-setting accomplishments in record-setting time, data shows the news coverage of Trump has been 92% negative. The most egregious and dangerous forms of this bias thrived this summer at media outlets like the Washington Post, which routinely masquerade opinion as news.”

A whopping 266,000 jobs was created in November, with 54,000 manufacturing jobs created. All the while Canada lost jobs. Economist are blown away and Biden predicting a recession.
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Jan 31, 2018 · Pay gains during Trump's first year in office best since the Great Recession. The Employment Cost Index, a measure of salary and benefit costs, registered a 2.6 percent gain for the full year, tied for the best since 2007. That gives President Donald Trump the best wage gains since the Great Recession, easily topping any during former President Barack Obama's entire term.


Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar workers are shrinking the wage gap

Monthly reports on the number of new jobs and the unemployment rate can drown out important trends like these two: After four decades of worsening, wage inequality has started shrinking. And in a twist, America’s blue-collar workers are playing the biggest role in driving that reversal.

This may come as a surprise, because education is classically seen as a ladder up the income scale. Despite blue-collar workers often lacking college degrees, their wages have been accelerating faster than those of their white-collar counterparts.

For example: In the past three years, white-collar workers, the sector that the Bureau of Labor Statistics classifies as “Management, Professional, and Related Occupations” and which encompasses 40% of the workforce, have seen their wages grow by nearly 7.5%. During the same period, all other workers, a group composed almost entirely of noncollege grads, have seen their paychecks grow by about 10 percent.


Mar 11, 2019, 03:52pm
Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26 https://www.forbes.com/.../trumps-policy-magic-wand.../...

 

You are the one obligated to prove your claim is true. and you've never presented a shred of evidence to support that. About all you managed are various statements and coincidences that you claim as causation.

 

It only takes a surgical strike to take out oil fields. Typical leftist, trying to scare other Americans into thinking we are thinking invasion. How Hanoi Jane of you to propagate the Iran talking point they are definitely going to start something anyway.

 

Sandy to earth ! Sandy to earth!!! Contrary to left wing focus, there is a lot more going on in the world than the "witch hunt". Of course the House has no idea, but you could read real news and find out! You just call it distractions because it deviates from your complete focus.