The Capitalist System Is Decaying Because Of Its Own Contradictions

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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Sanders is a social democrat, but uses the socialist tag to impress the young folk! There is nothing radical about Hilary. Calling her a commie when she has so willingly supported the financial elite really isn't cunning!
     
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    No thanks. If you're basing these ridiculous comments on a book it must be something to be avoided. I'll stick with the obvious ones: Marx, Schumpeter, Friedman, Hayek, Galbraith, Keynes etc etc etc. You know, actual economics!
     
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    you mean a communist who supported many communist causes, honeymooned in USSR, and said it is silly to have 23 deodorant companies when people are going hungry" Do you really think health care and deodorant are the only 2 industries an open libcommie wants to control???
     
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    This comes across like rant. I'm sure you will find all social democrats as commies. Given you find liberals are commies, you have a binary outlook: communist versus market fundamentalist. Its not going to allow you to generate valid economic comment.
     
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    facts about Sanders are facts, not a rant. Can you grasp that?

    Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
    The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened
     
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    so did out Founders, when they wrote the Constitution, and Friedman: freedom or govt.

    Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
    The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened
     
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    By referring to libcommie, your opinion is necessarily rejected. Sorry, but that's intellectualism for you
     
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    Can you find one case where Friedman uses the term libcommie? No need to answer!
     
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    for him it was binary: freedom or govt. Those who support state have a 100 names. Liberal and commie are the two most important today. Now do you understand?
     
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    I'll ask again: Can you find one case where Friedman uses the term libcommie? Lets add a supplementary question: Why can't you?
     
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    why?? if sanders is a commie and hillary is a lib and they support each other libcommie is the perfect name for today's politics
     
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    Because, by definition, they are conflicting political economic schools of thought. Bit obvious really
     
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    Friedman had his own names but meaning was identical to mine. He died before an open communist took over Democratic Party. He often called himself a liberal; but that means nothing in today's context. Too subtle for you?
     
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    Please quote from Friedman where he says, in other words, there are libcommies.
     
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    conflicting?? not to our liberals who spied for Stalin while he was slowly starving 60 million to death? Nor to Norman Thomas while he running for president:

    Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
    The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened
     
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    By definition. Anyone with an economic education will know that. Of course you also know that, as shown by your failure to refer to one credible economist who refers to libcommies
     
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    if you think Friedman liked modern liberals or communist statists you should trying a little reading. See how easily a liberal is defeated?
     
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    You didn't meet my simple request: Please quote from Friedman where he says, in other words, there are libcommies.
     
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    Norman Thomas didn't know it??
    Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
    The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened
     
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    " the govt solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem" for him and our Founders govt was bad whether it was lib commie monarchy dictator tyrant feudal socialist etc. Notice that when a conservative and liberal meet the conservative ends up running a kindergarten.
     
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    A reference to a preference for the market? If that's the best you have then you've given up
     
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    you have now learned that Friedman and our Founders were anti statist regardless of the rationale the state uses. Making sense now?
     
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    Still waiting for a Friedman quote where he pretended to refer to libcommies. Isn't going to happen is it? Now Friedman was limited in many ways. His money illusion stuff on the Phillips Curve was an exercise into irrelevance after all. But he did know economics and wouldn't make vacuous reference to libcommies
     
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    reread, its not a preference for the market but a hatred of the libcommie state or any other state. I use libcommie merely because those are now the 2 most popular statist rationales nowadays. Do you understand now?

    "Most of the energy of political work is devoted to correcting the effects of mismanagement of government."
    Milton Friedman


    Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
    The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened
     
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    Don't be silly. Its merely a reference to how government failure has also got to be taken into account. You won't find any comment from Friedman that agrees with your nonsense. He was regularly wrong, but he did understand economics.
     

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