The Capitol Riot was no Aberration. It was the first battle of the Civil War

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  1. Zorro

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    Fake News. You never had a case, you got your ass kicked and now you want a war. You people are unbelievable. Trump had every right to hold a view you don't agree with, and communicate it. At least have Donald The Magnificent whip your asses two out of two on impeachment is a loss without a bloody war unlike when Democrats lost the American Civil War, that they started, but at the cost of the death of over 30 percent of the fighting age Democrat males. Now, in your anger over losing yet another fight you shouldn't have started, you want another war? We refuse your offer. You have had your asses kicked enough for now. Now get to work on the agenda of the American People, not your fkn petty vendettas over the plain fact that people have the right, not only to disagree with you, but to say so publically. My gosh. What has happened to the once great Democrat Party? You guys were once the very Party of Civil Rights and the Sworn Enemy of Black Lists. Now you have reversed it. Get your heads back on straight!

    It’s over. Trump acquitted yet again

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    The only way it was going to end
    . In this nation, we have the right to hold views that the Authoritarian Left thinks they can ban, and we have the right to state them publicly. That you want to ban this, criminalize this, and black list any who would dare speak their minds, is why you guys aren't real popular these days. Such Censorious Punishment-Happy Blacklisting is twisted and unhealthy. Learn to understand that people have the right to disagree with you, and to say so, whenever they wish.

    Not with a bang, but with a whimper. The second impeachment trial in the Senate of Donald The Magnificent failed to pass, picking up only 57 of the necessary 67 votes required to remove Trump from an office he no longer occupies. Donald Trump now stands as the first President to beat impeachment twice in the Senate.

    None of this should come as a surprise. The President was being charged with thought and speech crimes.

    If we want to prevent another incident of violent unrest such as what we saw on January 6th, we have to address the underlying cause of the problems involved. And we cannot have the entire Authoritarian Left continue to ignore the rest of the riots and destruction we’ve been witnessing over the past couple of years. Plenty of elected officials have either ignored or actively encouraged all of the violence.

    If you want a unified front on this, we should probably start by agreeing that no street mayhem and violence is acceptable. We simply can’t assign blame to the side we disagree with politically.
     
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    A very high percentage of those identified arrested and interrogated are like Dirty Donald with bankruptcies in their past or possibly present, a lot of them are financially dead beats. A high percentage of the males have domestic abuse histories and convictions.
     
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    As usual you're a day late the revolution against our consttitutional Republic began with the death by overdose of George Floyd last summer. As for your hyperbolic post if you're willing to believe what was little more than a series of glorified pep talks inspired violence because we'll it suits your silly narrative I can't help you.
     
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    So police didn't shot and killed one of the domestic terrorists breaching the Capitol?
     
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    Shot while trespassing (and I hope 'domestic terrorist' is sarcasm...). While it certainly wasn't a 'just' shooting, neither was it warfare. If we're going to equate a (relatively small) riot to terrorism or civil war, then 'the first shots' happened long, long ago.
     
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    I thought I would miss the tanTrumps when he was voted out, but they just keep coming. Trump has been sentenced to life inside the minds of many.
     
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    Fruit Loops?
     
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    HAHA keep dreaming
    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Is this what you guys do all day? Sit around and fantasize about Trump in an orange jumpsuit? I mean, i guess it makes sense. The left doesn't actually have any common sense policies so might as well sit around hating.
     
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    so it looks like we have super violence (pic below for proof)
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    VS "PEACEFUL PROTESTNG"

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    I hope YOU are being sarcastic. The crowd breached the Capitol building with intent to do great bodily harm or death to the people inside. As proof, they killed a cop. The officer who shot and killed the domestic terrorist was more than justified in shooting her as he was one of the last lines of defense between the crowd and the members of congress inside the room. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
     
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    A cop died from a natural causes induced by the stress of the event. What else you got to back up the emboldenned claim?
     
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    You know, I started making threads here YEARS Ago regarding the upcoming civil war. And yes, I do believe a full scale civil war will happen within my lifetime ( I am not young )

    People called me crazy.
     
  14. Maccabee

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    Evidence for your claim?
     
  15. modernpaladin

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    The original story that he died after being hit with a fire extinguisher was later 'corrected', and as of yesterday, the official cause of death has not been publicly released.
    Did U.S. Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick Die After Hit With a Fire Extinguisher? (snopes.com)

    At one point it was reported that he had a bloodclot (stroke) and was on a ventilator as a result, though that hasn't been verified either.
    A month after Capitol riot, autopsy results pending in Officer Brian Sicknick death investigation | Fox News

    And then there was this little snippett from Glenn Ivey, the former state’s attorney for Prince George’s County and a former federal prosecutor with the District of Columbia U.S. Attorney’s Office:
    "It may be that the medical examiner is having some difficulty sorting out whether the medical conditions were part of the cause of death or the sole cause of death or, you know, whether he was struck..."
    1 month later: Who killed Officer Brian Sicknick? (msn.com)
    ...so they don't even know if he was struck, though, assuming the phrasing is accurate, they do know he had "medical conditions."

    Until the medical examiner makes a decision and until that decision is made public, you need to back up your assertion that "The crowd breached the Capitol building with intent to do great bodily harm or death to the people inside" with something else. Though, to be honest, even if he was struck in the head by a fire extinguisher, that would only demonstrate that one person likely intended great bodily harm... but so far, there isn't even that.
     
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    And the Japanese were just trying to test out their new torpedoes on 12/7/1941. The sailors were having a crap game below decks on the Arizona, entirely their own fault.

    If you're beating on somebody and they die from a brain tumor that is still felony murder. You don't get to kill people just because they're sick to begin with.
     
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    The hectic dynamic of riots where folks are often injured by accident aside, you might've noticed the part where they're not even entirely sure he was struck by anything... which was the original point I was making- this is not evidence supporting the claim that 'the crowd intended to do great bodily harm or death' to anyone. Certainly they were trespassing and dissorderly, and thus breaking the law, and if its determined that Brian died as a result of their breaking the law, it would be just to try them for his death. But as of yet, assertions of intent are baseless.
     
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  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So? If you CAUSE a riot and then someone is killed in the "hectic dynamic" it doesn't matter if the death was an ACCIDENT or not. They would still be alive if not for the riot and that's the final test of whether you are responsible
     
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    Yup. Thats not what we were discussing. I was addressing the accusation that the crowd intended to harm or kill Brian, or anyone.

    You should really get the context of the conversation before jumping in...
     
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    What riot? That was trespassing with folks taking selfies.
     
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    You must be kidding.

    The first shots of the (Second) American Civil War were fired at Rep. Scalise in 2017.

    The first battle was fought in 2018, as a mob far larger than the one that stormed the Capitol had taken over the Hart Senate Office Building during Justice Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing to intimidate lawmakers into voting down his nomination.

    https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/01/08/trump-rings-in-the-era-of-total-political-correctness/

    The first military campaign (against the civilians) was executed in 2020 as the BLM / Antifa thugs.

    And the Capitol riot?
    Well, as I have already explained:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...orrect-questions-about-jan-6-incident.585005/

    And finally the claim "Trump lies have likely already killed more Americans than did Hitler... and all for personal political gain. He is the greatest mass murderer in US history. And his supporters are either knowingly or unknowingly complicit in that mass murder.

    Well, as I have already predicted:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/if-biden-wins.576829/
     
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    Within your own source, while the cause of death for Officer Sicknick is unknown, other officers were seriously injured. One officer was dragged into the mob and beaten with a US flag. In fact they were taking magazines and gear off him and attempted to grab his firearm. He literally had to beg for his life and speak to the humanity of the crowd before finally being helped back to the police line. To say that that they didn't intended to do great bodily harm or death is ignorant at best.
     
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    And beating cops, trying to locate and kill members of congress, attempting to sell intel to the Russians. You know, the usual petty crimes.
     
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    They weren't domestic terrorist they were protestors, unarmed protestors. One of whom was shot, one of whom looked like a lost, drunken Vikings fan, and two looked liked Elmer Fudd sans shotgun. Those people were domestic terrorists to the same extent you're the ghost of Christmas Past. They were confused not terribly bright, and acting. The idiots needed to have the wrists slapped and told to take their dumbasses home.
     

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